Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
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Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« on: January 19, 2018, 12:38:10 PM »
Greetings from germany fellow cricket lovers and cricketers.

I've owned over 20 bats and was wondering if applying the recommended 3-4 coats
of raw linseed oil (learned this from a Julian Millichamp bat prepration video on youtube) before knocking it in is actually detrimental to the blade.

In my experience, my oiled and knocked in SF Sapphire, SS TON Professional and a BAS custom all started delaminating (i'm talking severe delamination here with those horrible hollow sounds and next to no ping off of the delaminated area) in the nets itself. Looking forward
to being enlightened :)
« Last Edit: January 19, 2018, 12:40:58 PM by amnitg »
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 12:48:44 PM »
Check the balls being used in nets, maybe cheap rock types. Some pics will help guys in here diagnose the issue.
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 12:56:08 PM »
Hi. thanks for the quick reply. all balls used in the nets are either old SG CLUB or Tournament balls. i'm not looking for a repair solution for delamination here. I just want
to know if there is a direct relationship between oiling and early delamination.
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2018, 12:58:08 PM »
Quote from: amnitg on January 19, 2018, 12:56:08 PM
Hi. thanks for the quick reply. all balls used in the nets are either old SG CLUB or Tournament balls. i'm not looking for a repair solution for delamination here. I just want
to know if there is a direct relationship between oiling and early delamination.

Shouldn't be any correlation between oil and de-lamination.
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2018, 01:11:11 PM »
No chance
Oiling a bat is not gonna cause delam issues

It’s either cheap rock hard balls,(cut one open) or the bats drying excessively
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2018, 01:16:28 PM »
Quote from: Northern monkey on January 19, 2018, 01:11:11 PM
No chance
Oiling a bat is not gonna cause delam issues

It’s either cheap rock hard balls,(cut one open) or the bats drying excessively

was just going through this on the laver and wood website ( Topic link: https://laverwood.com/laver-woods-cricket-bat-lore-ch-28-why-bats-break-how-to-protect-them/ )

they wrote:
"Dry willow can be dealt with through oiling the bat, although be careful with how much you oil your bat as over oiling can damage the bat. Excessive oil may cause the fibres in the face of the bat to separate and therefore delaminate, making the bat vulnerable to splitting."

so, it very welll could be "over-oiling" that causes the early onset of delamination
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2018, 01:25:02 PM »
Over oiling is something that is very, very difficult to do! You'd more or less have to sit the bat in a bucket of oil for at least a few days to Over-oil a bat.

You applying 3/4 coats of oil to a bat isn't causing your problem.
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2018, 01:38:53 PM »
we oil to seal in the exsisting bat moisture content over oiling can soften bat fibres
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2018, 01:56:24 PM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on January 19, 2018, 01:38:53 PM
we oil to seal in the exsisting bat moisture content over oiling can soften bat fibres

So, over-oiling can soften bat fibres. Could this lead to delamination as well ?
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2018, 02:24:23 PM »
 Yes softening  the bat fibres by over oiling makes the fibres  subsceptible  to splitting  which  can lead to delamination.
« Last Edit: January 19, 2018, 02:29:04 PM by Seniorplayer »
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2018, 02:30:42 PM »
Inconsistency of pressing over the face area may be a possible cause.
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2018, 02:31:16 PM »
Quote from: The Doctor on January 19, 2018, 12:58:08 PM
Shouldn't be any correlation between oil and de-lamination.

I would suggest you follow what the Dr says.

Quote from: Seniorplayer on January 19, 2018, 02:24:23 PM
Yes softening  the bat fibres by over oiling makes the fibres  subsceptible  to splitting  which  can lead to delamination.


As mentioned above this would take litres of oil, not 3 or 4 goes.

If the bat is delaminated take it back to where is came from.
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2018, 02:40:31 PM »
Agree it takes some doing but over oil can  clog deaden fibres
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2018, 06:13:11 PM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on January 19, 2018, 02:40:31 PM
Agree it takes some doing but over oil can  clog deaden fibres

Am grateful for all your responses.

staying on topic, does a hard-pressed bat delaminate quicker than a softer one? 
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Re: Severe delamination in oiled and knocked-in new bats
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2018, 09:09:50 PM »
Quote from: amnitg on January 19, 2018, 06:13:11 PM
Am grateful for all your responses.

staying on topic, does a hard-pressed bat delaminate quicker than a softer one?

No the softer the pressing the sooner the delamination begins
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