Topic: What makes Aussie made GN's so special/sought after. (Read 27186 times)

edge · « **Reply #45 on:** February 22, 2018, 07:36:53 AM »

Serious question - is there even that much point trying to seek out a Kranzbuhler shaped bat vs an Australian made GN? Seems very unlikely that the workpath of a bat in an operation the size of GN is one man presses a cleft, handles and then shapes it. Even if some will have been done start to finish by SK, chances are that most of them haven't. Similar to how if you buy a Laver & Wood these days, it quite possibly hasn't seen much of James Laver. So if you think the real key is it being made by one bloke then you're still guessing whether he's pressed it or not (which is the important bit after all). So SK fans - is his making the key, or do you just want an Aussie made GN and trust that the other people working there are up to scratch?

simonmay5 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 22, 2018, 08:07:25 AM »

I think for me the key is to have sk is to have a custom as then you know Stuart has made it to your specks until people actually use one of Stuart�s bats it�s difficult to say there no difference because they not had first hand experience with the bats in question

procricket · « **Reply #47 on:** February 22, 2018, 09:18:41 AM »

Quote from: joymarvin on February 22, 2018, 12:20:14 AM

Does expensive bats guarantees a good innings?

As you know pal if you cant play no bats going to make you any better . You may look good though walking out with it....

I you get a good price from bulk buys and mentioning on a forum when why not.

I would want one if they where in a good price range just to see but i have played with one before and get the appeal.

Aussiecollector · « **Reply #48 on:** February 22, 2018, 09:55:49 AM »

Quote from: sgcricket on February 22, 2018, 07:36:29 AM

It's just the forum fad at the moment. Nothing extra over any other bat in terms of performance.
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Hmmm , interesting , anyone who uses an SK would disagree strongly , every player i have let use mine can tell the difference , the most common comment is i hardly hit it & look how far or how fast it flew off the bat , they have always been special , i have SK bats that are over 8 years old that still impress , so not a fad for me , my older bats are better than the same current batch , there are 3 other batmakers in the cave , numbers made depend on previous years sales & retail orders , average time to make a bat approx 2hrs , stu takes up to 4.5hrs on a custom , hence the cost , the willow shape , handle type , weight , pickup & overall finish are unique to each one , wait time about three weeks , marsh replica number under twenty , same with the warner & williamson replicas , these are custom orders by specific shops, XXX are made on an as per order request , on a side note the total xp80 , 50plus & kaboom numbers for 2016 was less than 200 & the custom range is less than 5% of GN AUS sales.

Kulli · « **Reply #49 on:** February 22, 2018, 09:56:03 AM »

Quote from: simonmay5 on February 22, 2018, 08:07:25 AM

I think for me the key is to have sk is to have a custom as then you know Stuart has made it to your specks until people actually use one of Stuart�s bats it�s difficult to say there no difference because they not had first hand experience with the bats in question

Have to confess I have very little idea of the size or set up GN have in Melbourne, but the above interests me.

Do we think that 2 bats coming from the same place can vary hugely in quality depending on which batmaker it is doing which part of the process? Also, presume somewhere like that any other employees would be trained by the main man.

joymarvin · « **Reply #50 on:** February 22, 2018, 10:29:00 AM »

Quote from: procricket on February 22, 2018, 09:18:41 AM

As you know pal if you cant play no bats going to make you any better . You may look good though walking out with it....

I you get a good price from bulk buys and mentioning on a forum when why not.

I would want one if they where in a good price range just to see but i have played with one before and get the appeal.

I agree mate. Expensive bats don't guarantee runs unless the feel of having a expensive bat at the crease and for collection. You know me well I have had 3 B3 crowns at 500 quid each. I loved using expensive bats at the crease

jamesisapayne · « **Reply #51 on:** February 22, 2018, 10:51:32 AM »

Quote from: joymarvin on February 22, 2018, 10:29:00 AM

I agree mate. Expensive bats don't guarantee runs unless the feel of having a expensive bat at the crease and for collection. You know me well I have had 3 B3 crowns at 500 quid each. I loved using expensive bats at the crease

I've used a couple of expensive, nice big looking bats at the crease and there is something about having a decent bit of wood in your hand that inspires confidence - but in my experience that's all it does.

It's a placebo effect and to the vast majority of us on here (myself included) - we're simply not good enough to play like the pro's. Having a bat like David Warner or Chris Lynn doesn't give me any more chance of playing like them whatsoever. It just means I've paid a silly amount of money for a piece of timber and my confidence has gone up a bit.

Is it worth all that money for that? Not for me to say as each to their own really, but these SK made bats are the latest in a long line of forum trends that come and go just like every other one has done in the past.

You pays your money and you takes your choice. If people want to buy these bats believing they're made by the best batmaker out there that's their choice. It's certainly not one that I subscribe to as I believe it's impossible to gauge something like that - there's a lot of great people out there making superb bats.

No doubt the size of the bats are impressive, but I bet if a pro used one of them versus a standard off the shelf bat there wouldn't be a huge amount of difference as it's the person holding it that scores the runs. That says it all to me really.

joymarvin · « **Reply #52 on:** February 22, 2018, 10:55:58 AM »

Quote from: jamesisapayne on February 22, 2018, 10:51:32 AM

I've used a couple of expensive, nice big looking bats at the crease and there is something about having a decent bit of wood in your hand that inspires confidence - but in my experience that's all it does.

It's a placebo effect and to the vast majority of us on here (myself included) - we're simply not good enough to play like the pro's. Having a bat like David Warner or Chris Lynn doesn't give me any more chance of playing like them whatsoever. It just means I've paid a silly amount of money for a piece of timber and my confidence has gone up a bit.

Is it worth all that money for that? Not for me to say as each to their own really, but these SK made bats are the latest in a long line of forum trends that come and go just like every other one has done in the past.

You pays your money and you takes your choice. If people want to buy these bats believing they're made by the best batmaker out there that's their choice. It's certainly not one that I subscribe to as I believe it's impossible to gauge something like that - there's a lot of great people out there making superb bats.

No doubt the size of the bats are impressive, but I bet if a pro used one of them versus a standard off the shelf bat there wouldn't be a huge amount of difference as it's the person holding it that scores the runs. That says it all to me really.

Well said mate. If a individual got excess cash to burn, why not spend on expensive bats and enjoy playing..

sgcricket · « **Reply #53 on:** February 22, 2018, 11:10:56 AM »

Quote from: Aussiecollector on February 22, 2018, 09:55:49 AM

Quote from: sgcricket on February 22, 2018, 07:36:29 AM
It's just the forum fad at the moment. Nothing extra over any other bat in terms of performance.
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Hmmm , interesting , anyone who uses an SK would disagree strongly , every player i have let use mine can tell the difference , the most common comment is i hardly hit it & look how far or how fast it flew off the bat , they have always been special , i have SK bats that are over 8 years old that still impress , so not a fad for me , my older bats are better than the same current batch , there are 3 other batmakers in the cave , numbers made depend on previous years sales & retail orders , average time to make a bat approx 2hrs , stu takes up to 4.5hrs on a custom , hence the cost , the willow shape , handle type , weight , pickup & overall finish are unique to each one , wait time about three weeks , marsh replica number under twenty , same with the warner & williamson replicas , these are custom orders by specific shops, XXX are made on an as per order request , on a side note the total xp80 , 50plus & kaboom numbers for 2016 was less than 200 & the custom range is less than 5% of GN AUS sales.
I am comparing a standard off the shelf bat. And to me there is no difference. Coming to special bas, again the same point applies. You can get a special made bat in India, UK or Australia and they would perform the same. That has been my personal experience.

Calzehbhoy · « **Reply #54 on:** February 22, 2018, 11:52:40 AM »

Meh... I just liked and wanted one, so I've ordered 3....

As with anything it's personal choice... Some will say different brands are amazing, others will point to other brands.... Let's just enjoy the wonderful willow whatever the stickers.

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 22, 2018, 01:45:08 PM »

Quote from: procricket on February 21, 2018, 10:03:31 PM

Some on this forum chatting about bats have never batted long enough to understand a bat or use one properly.

That might be the case, but they look nice sat in my kit bag...

tushar sehgal · « **Reply #56 on:** February 22, 2018, 01:45:59 PM »

I think sometimes its also about finding the right bat weight, shape, pressing and batmaker for yourself. If I want a bat that I know will perform I go to RPC, everytime without fail I have what I feel are guns from Rob. Effortless shots clear boundaries but the same bat feels not so good to some of my mates and others love it, I am comparing ppl who use the similar weight and profile to me.

So I would assume SK is similar, he might make an awesome bat for some and the same bat might not be good for others. Is he the best in the world? I dunno, is he the best to the ones who get on with his gear? yes.

I'll get killed for this: The JM Screaming cats that I have had all have been great, at least that's what I was told by everyone who used them, but I didn't get on with them so does that make Rob Pack a better batmaker than JM? no, but for me yes.

Would i like to try a SK bat? absolutely but I can't justify the price, considering I can get about 2 top of the line RPCs for that much money, if one comes up for sale are a reasonable price i might try. That's one thing I liked about the forum when I first joined a few years ago, you had the option of trying bats from many batmakers at a cheap price (g2 or g3 or butterfly were all very reasonable) and see who you like and get on with. I found H4L, BB & RPC were to my liking, doesn't means others were bad. You can't really do that today with the prices that are being charged etc.

Yorkershire · « **Reply #57 on:** February 22, 2018, 03:19:25 PM »

Quote from: tushar sehgal on February 22, 2018, 01:45:59 PM

I think sometimes its also about finding the right bat weight, shape, pressing and batmaker for yourself. If I want a bat that I know will perform I go to RPC, everytime without fail I have what I feel are guns from Rob. Effortless shots clear boundaries but the same bat feels not so good to some of my mates and others love it, I am comparing ppl who use the similar weight and profile to me.

So I would assume SK is similar, he might make an awesome bat for some and the same bat might not be good for others. Is he the best in the world? I dunno, is he the best to the ones who get on with his gear? yes.

I'll get killed for this: The JM Screaming cats that I have had all have been great, at least that's what I was told by everyone who used them, but I didn't get on with them so does that make Rob Pack a better batmaker than JM? no, but for me yes.

Would i like to try a SK bat? absolutely but I can't justify the price, considering I can get about 2 top of the line RPCs for that much money, if one comes up for sale are a reasonable price i might try. That's one thing I liked about the forum when I first joined a few years ago, you had the option of trying bats from many batmakers at a cheap price (g2 or g3 or butterfly were all very reasonable) and see who you like and get on with. I found H4L, BB & RPC were to my liking, doesn't means others were bad. You can't really do that today with the prices that are being charged etc.

Great Post! I think people have their preferences and some of the reasons may not be very tangible! I feel exactly the same way!
There's a few brands I'd like to try but each time I need a bat I just can't bring myself to spend the money as I can't justify it when I can get a better value bat elsewhere...

InternalTraining · « **Reply #58 on:** February 22, 2018, 04:33:43 PM »

Quote from: KW9221 on February 22, 2018, 12:29:14 AM

Do these bats come with certificates of performance? Or with money back guarantee?

I wish they did, because I'd returning half the bats I own!

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I have seen people who complain about their bats but can�t even middle the ball. I saw Mohammad Yusuf Played a local charity game I person. He used one of the local players CA 10000 and scored 75+ on 35 balls. He didn�t need a $800 bat to score runs. It is all psychological mate.

I met him in person. I own two souvenirs autographed by him. He is built like a $hit brickhouse, his shoulders and arms are like a boxer's!!!

It's not psychological for average players and clubbies. I have played same shots with cheapo/unopened bats that've barely crossed the 30 yard line and top bats that've raced to the boundary or flown over the boundary. Bats matter. Pros will hit the sweet spot better than a clubbie but will struggle with a crap bat! CA10000s are awesome bats but no Kranzies.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #59 on:** February 22, 2018, 04:36:49 PM »

Quote from: cesare_in on February 22, 2018, 01:53:31 AM

Amount of money I have spent in the last 24 months in bats (5-6 bats) since I got back to playing cricket would have fetched me one of these expensive ones.

My advice to people buying is simple: get a top of the line bat that's beyond your budge once than buying 6-7 bats for next two years that are individually cheaper but collectively cost more than an individually purchased top-of-the-line bat.

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