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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2018, 12:25:07 PM »

Barringtons have just dropped GM as well.

Wonder if they could live to regret this
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2018, 12:35:30 PM »

Barringtons have just dropped GM as well.

Wonder if they could live to regret this
How can Barringtons drop one of the biggest cricket equipment manufacturers in the UK???
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #32 on: March 29, 2018, 12:39:12 PM »

They could drop you?
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2018, 12:39:34 PM »

I know. Beggars belief, but sure he knows what he's doing.
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2018, 12:40:30 PM »

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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2018, 12:55:57 PM »

I meant barringtons
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2018, 01:00:28 PM »

Not sure how they could drop me mate.
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #37 on: March 29, 2018, 01:41:45 PM »

Not sure how they could drop me mate.

I think Alvaro means GM could have dropped Barringtons...
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #38 on: March 29, 2018, 01:42:23 PM »

Yeah we cleared that up mate haha.
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2018, 06:30:47 PM »

Watching the highlights and I notice Stokes is wearing Adidas shoes. 
New Balance really have cut all ties with him, haven't they...
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #40 on: March 30, 2018, 07:00:54 PM »

Watching the highlights and I notice Stokes is wearing Adidas shoes. 
New Balance really have cut all ties with him, haven't they...

I would think that is more stokes saying Up yours new balance.... I couldn’t believe he was still using their softs taped up

Great signing from GM- looks like he is using GM shape bats and not just restickered his old ones. Hoping to see them
Red bull ones on eBay 😜
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #41 on: March 30, 2018, 08:41:36 PM »

Sorry, but why would those Red Bull ones be on eBay? I was once told by a friend of a friend of Ben Stokes that he usually passes his old bats down to academy players at Durham, I believe.

I hope they do go on eBay, though. I really do!

There's a New Balance bat on eBay right now that was apparently for Ben Stokes but was leftover as it was around that time when the controversy, etc, took place. Looks like an absolute plank with NB stickers on it, however. Again, 'looks'... There were pics of those Kane Williamson GN Velocity bats posted on one thread some time ago by potzy248 and they certainly didn't look pretty. Some few inconsistent, swervy and unclean grains, but I'd bet that they ping like hell.

So something that looks like a plank, may not be. That's why its important to check it out in person. But then again, there's a dilemma: one cannot always check a bat out in person, so one almost always has to take a risk. Trust is super-super important. The most important thing, in fact, I believe, when it comes down to these sort of things. The speed of trust as well.

Ryan Grundy from Hitman almost had me buy what seemed like a plank for 4K. He said it was an MRF that was given to a friend of his because his friend knew a friend that knew Sachin. Then I noticed inconsistencies in what he was saying and all, and I took my time with him. You ask him plenty of questions, he only answers a few and he's deliberately vague. Amazing liar he is, I'll tell you. He even told me that he sold a bat that was made for Virat Kohli, one of his very own, from his bag, for $2500 AUD.........

Would anyone believe me? Thankfully, I haven't deleted those messages.

He also wanted $2000 AUD for a used NB Steve Smith bat that he said he would get me. I ended up catching him out. Kept saying 'I don't get why you would want a player's bat when the bats I have are better than what they give to players?' and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He was always deliberately vague and once you ask him enough questions and don't act like one of his typical customers that get conned out of their money, unless you were born with a very rare genetic mutation guaranteeing a profound level of dumbness, there is no way you'd be able to see through him.

It's sad because I was really excited for the Steve Smith bat and jumped around on my bed when he told me that. He even said it would be one from the Champions Trophy. I know...  I eventually found out that he outsources his bats and couldn't give two s***s about integrity. Don't know how people buy off him. 
Told me once that he was getting a Steve Smith bat from 'Jatin at SS'. He uses these big names and takes advantage of people's naiveté. Admittedly, I didn't know much about Jatin Sareen or any other bat directors, for that matter, at the time. Only a bit. I knew for a fact that SS had nothing to do with Steve Smith's bats and it was Protos that made them. He doesn't even know the profiles/shapes/preferences of some of these player's bats. I can even get a bat custom-made by SS - nothing hard at all. Doesn't mean it is of the players! So I grilled him after that, and he then goes on to say ridiculous stuff that doesn't align with what he'd previously said. Says that he needed 2K for the Smith bat because players are contractually more responsible for their bats nowadays. I even believed that.

Hear this: He told me a couple of time that he doesn't rate SG. Even said that Smith's bats made by Protos are like 'shop bats' and that F.C. Sondhi a.k.a Protos, are average. Like, wth? Root, (formerly) Stokes, Smith, Miller, Finch, all use bats made by them. As if this 'expert' knows more than the experts that have been in the cricket equipment manufacturing business for dozens of years.

I'm 18 btw, and 17 at the time, so he thought it'd be easy to con me. I ended buying an authentic bat of the Little Master's that was picked out from his personal collection that is his box of around 30 BAS bats in his Mumbai house, after a mutual friend travelled there to watch his 199th test. Will certainly doing a special post with plenty of pics and details. Haven't done so yet because of the amount of scepticism I was afraid it would invite. Only bad thing is that the thick yellow chevron grip that Sachin Tendulkar had used himself (yes, the bat was used by him...) was taken off, though there was a bit of it left, and it had been replaced by a simple blue octopus grip. Nothing huge compared to some of the bigger bats that the great has used at other times during his career. It weighed about 2.12, although it picked up extremely light (but that may have something to do with the fact that I'm 6ft. 5) and the edges measured about 39mm. I've read pretty much everything on Sachin's bats since like primary school, and he's used some much bigger bats. It's also taped near the bottom and the toe has a bit of crack. Front Adidas sticker taken off but the outline and all is easily visible. Its funny because I always told myself that his bat would be the hardest to obtain and it was in the financial sense, but didn't know that I had a friend that knew Sachin.

But, now I couldn't care less as to what others may think. It cost me a lot of money - almost half my savings.

I also got a leather jacket that was from Sachin with the bat because the friend I bought it off was just that nice and leather jackets aren't really his thing, but its for sale on eBay at the moment as I'm looking to fund something fairly vital for the new season. Won't say much on here, as I believe its not appropriate?

Overall, I'm sorry if I annoyed anyone. This may not have been the most appropriate thread to post the latter-half of the email on, but I had to get it out.
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2018, 09:07:26 PM »

Sorry, but why would those Red Bull ones be on eBay? I was once told by a friend of a friend of Ben Stokes that he usually passes his old bats down to academy players at Durham, I believe.

I hope they do go on eBay, though. I really do!

There's a New Balance bat on eBay right now that was apparently for Ben Stokes but was leftover as it was around that time when the controversy, etc, took place. Looks like an absolute plank with NB stickers on it, however. Again, 'looks'... There were pics of those Kane Williamson GN Velocity bats posted on one thread some time ago by potzy248 and they certainly didn't look pretty. Some few inconsistent, swervy and unclean grains, but I'd bet that they ping like hell.

So something that looks like a plank, may not be. That's why its important to check it out in person. But then again, there's a dilemma: one cannot always check a bat out in person, so one almost always has to take a risk. Trust is super-super important. The most important thing, in fact, I believe, when it comes down to these sort of things. The speed of trust as well.

Ryan Grundy from Hitman almost had me buy what seemed like a plank for 4K. He said it was an MRF that was given to a friend of his because his friend knew a friend that knew Sachin. Then I noticed inconsistencies in what he was saying and all, and I took my time with him. You ask him plenty of questions, he only answers a few and he's deliberately vague. Amazing liar he is, I'll tell you. He even told me that he sold a bat that was made for Virat Kohli, one of his very own, from his bag, for $2500 AUD.........

Would anyone believe me? Thankfully, I haven't deleted those messages.

He also wanted $2000 AUD for a used NB Steve Smith bat that he said he would get me. I ended up catching him out. Kept saying 'I don't get why you would want a player's bat when the bats I have are better than what they give to players?' and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He was always deliberately vague and once you ask him enough questions and don't act like one of his typical customers that get conned out of their money, unless you were born with a very rare genetic mutation guaranteeing a profound level of dumbness, there is no way you'd be able to see through him.

It's sad because I was really excited for the Steve Smith bat and jumped around on my bed when he told me that. He even said it would be one from the Champions Trophy. I know...  I eventually found out that he outsources his bats and couldn't give two s***s about integrity. Don't know how people buy off him. 
Told me once that he was getting a Steve Smith bat from 'Jatin at SS'. He uses these big names and takes advantage of people's naiveté. Admittedly, I didn't know much about Jatin Sareen or any other bat directors, for that matter, at the time. Only a bit. I knew for a fact that SS had nothing to do with Steve Smith's bats and it was Protos that made them. He doesn't even know the profiles/shapes/preferences of some of these player's bats. I can even get a bat custom-made by SS - nothing hard at all. Doesn't mean it is of the players! So I grilled him after that, and he then goes on to say ridiculous stuff that doesn't align with what he'd previously said. Says that he needed 2K for the Smith bat because players are contractually more responsible for their bats nowadays. I even believed that.

Hear this: He told me a couple of time that he doesn't rate SG. Even said that Smith's bats made by Protos are like 'shop bats' and that F.C. Sondhi a.k.a Protos, are average. Like, wth? Root, (formerly) Stokes, Smith, Miller, Finch, all use bats made by them. As if this 'expert' knows more than the experts that have been in the cricket equipment manufacturing business for dozens of years.

I'm 18 btw, and 17 at the time, so he thought it'd be easy to con me. I ended buying an authentic bat of the Little Master's that was picked out from his personal collection that is his box of around 30 BAS bats in his Mumbai house, after a mutual friend travelled there to watch his 199th test. Will certainly doing a special post with plenty of pics and details. Haven't done so yet because of the amount of scepticism I was afraid it would invite. Only bad thing is that the thick yellow chevron grip that Sachin Tendulkar had used himself (yes, the bat was used by him...) was taken off, though there was a bit of it left, and it had been replaced by a simple blue octopus grip. Nothing huge compared to some of the bigger bats that the great has used at other times during his career. It weighed about 2.12, although it picked up extremely light (but that may have something to do with the fact that I'm 6ft. 5) and the edges measured about 39mm. I've read pretty much everything on Sachin's bats since like primary school, and he's used some much bigger bats. It's also taped near the bottom and the toe has a bit of crack. Front Adidas sticker taken off but the outline and all is easily visible. Its funny because I always told myself that his bat would be the hardest to obtain and it was in the financial sense, but didn't know that I had a friend that knew Sachin.

But, now I couldn't care less as to what others may think. It cost me a lot of money - almost half my savings.

I also got a leather jacket that was from Sachin with the bat because the friend I bought it off was just that nice and leather jackets aren't really his thing, but its for sale on eBay at the moment as I'm looking to fund something fairly vital for the new season. Won't say much on here, as I believe its not appropriate?

Overall, I'm sorry if I annoyed anyone. This may not have been the most appropriate thread to post the latter-half of the email on, but I had to get it out.

You are a bit keen though pal no disrecpt i refused to sell you the pro bats i had because you went to far offering thousends of pounds mate. No bat even if it is used by God himself is worth thats.

Buy bats that suit you if your a collector thats fine but mate check your source and authenticity of the bats. (Just do not go about it by offering sheadloads mate) you can get most pro replica from Australia and India direct, many have bought bats direct from SS and GN and others.

Plenty of wrong uns on there the guy selling the fake pro bats on ebay is another idiot, do not get stung pal use the forum for advice at times

Hope you put pictures up of your bats
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Re: Ben Stokes
« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2018, 09:21:01 PM »

What a read that was! The Hitman guy does seem like a complete (No Swearing Please) and we need to find a way to oust him entirely from the cricketing world.

As Dave’s said though - thousands is an extortionate about of money for a piece of wood. You look hard enough you’ll find a bat very similar to the one Sachin used for 200/300 quid.
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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2018, 10:13:33 PM »

Thank you for your positive reply(s). I didn't know there were people like him. I paid quite a bit for my match-used Sachin bat, but it was from his PERSONAL collection. Definitely doing a post soon, when I feel comfortable enough. I looked everywhere for a bat of Sachin's and only found one authentic one with a mountain of evidence and that was with a mutual friend who is twice as old as me. I searched very hard for a bat of Tendulkar's and Steve Smith's everywhere (Smith is favourite playing batsman) and I could really only find one authentic one; I certainly didn't want to burn myself out. And even if I did find another one, it wouldn't be sold for 200/300 quid - that's the price that normal retail bats sell for. There is no way anyone would give away an authentic bat of Sachin's for less than a thousand pounds. Sure, it may be a piece of wood. But the value of any item is determined by many factors, right? In the case of cricket bats, the particular person it belonged to, the quantity, where it came from, its authenticity, when it was used, where it was used, specific markings, condition of the bat, etc, etc. It's also signed without being dedicated to a specific person. Just says, 'Best Wishes, Sachin'. Had my eyes on this bat since 2013 when he first gave it away. Would've preferred it with its original yellow chevron grip but, meh.

I also have one of Arjun Tendulkar's bats in my room right now - it's a black Spartan. About five straight grains, fairly thick edges, very high spine, hammer edge scuff sheet, very nice handle. Size: LB. So suits me perfectly. Pings pretty good, but the noise the bat against a ball is as if its secretly an aluminium bat. Wasn't very impressed! But balance and all is great. My Newbery Mjolnir that I got in a car boot sale for £5 is somehow much better. Its a SH which is annoying, but I've hit some big sixes despite the thinness of the bat.

With regards to the Hitman Cricket stuff, he's said many more shocking things but he's basically a guy who just wants your money and very few questions. If you don't trust him with blind-faith, he'll just con someone else. Never felt satisfied enough with his highly, HIGHLY vague answers and self-contradictions I only had these experiences with him because I'm super, super passionate and, therefore, always really curious and inquisitive (no tooting my horn saying that's groundbreaking or anything, hahahaha) and it took me a while to figure him out. I always ask a ton of questions which can be annoying...
I'm sorry I didn't say all this before. None of this was exaggerated or lies, and I planned to write all this before, but it didn't feel right bringing someone down but, man, with his extortionate prices and all, it would be an understatement to say I was hella annoyed.
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