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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2018, 04:19:58 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on March 16, 2018, 04:04:19 PM
Have you seen him bowl? His action is fine. When he got tested he only failed because the set the machine up wrong.

Yes, and I saw the game he was called in too.  I can see why he was called, lets put it that way.  Last season why I saw him he looked better, though a lesser bowler. 
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2018, 06:00:47 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on March 16, 2018, 04:19:58 PM
Yes, and I saw the game he was called in too.  I can see why he was called, lets put it that way.  Last season why I saw him he looked better, though a lesser bowler.
Saw the game he was called in? He's not been called in a game..?
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2018, 06:18:36 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on March 16, 2018, 04:04:19 PM
Have you seen him bowl? His action is fine. When he got tested he only failed because the set the machine up wrong.

Is that a fact? Fault in setting up of machine?
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #48 on: March 16, 2018, 06:25:23 PM »
Correct, Leach was not called in a game, but was tested at Loughborough where they mucked up the tests.
It is on cricinfo
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #49 on: March 16, 2018, 06:49:57 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on March 16, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
Correct, Leach was not called in a game, but was tested at Loughborough where they mucked up the tests.
It is on cricinfo

Got a link? Hadn't heard this and struggling to find a reference to it.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #50 on: March 16, 2018, 07:01:12 PM »
Quote from: edge on March 16, 2018, 06:00:47 PM
Saw the game he was called in? He's not been called in a game..?

Sorry, called implies a Murali style arm out no ball, when Leach was reported (hence the test at Loughborough)
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #51 on: March 16, 2018, 07:04:17 PM »
« Last Edit: March 16, 2018, 07:07:52 PM by Buzz »
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #52 on: March 16, 2018, 07:09:44 PM »
That’s manure: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38376187

And Cricinfo
The ECB confirmed on Tuesday that the problem was raised during routine testing at the national academy in Loughborough following the end of the season in which Leach had taken 65 wickets at 21 in the County Championship. Leach has never been reported for a suspect action by the umpires.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #53 on: March 16, 2018, 07:46:56 PM »
Quote from: Alvaro on March 16, 2018, 07:09:44 PM
That’s manure: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/38376187

And Cricinfo
The ECB confirmed on Tuesday that the problem was raised during routine testing at the national academy in Loughborough following the end of the season in which Leach had taken 65 wickets at 21 in the County Championship. Leach has never been reported for a suspect action by the umpires.


Weird - the word at the ground was that he'd been reported at the Notts game.   
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #54 on: March 16, 2018, 10:02:52 PM »
If we are touring Sri Lanka in October, we may just need to start teting Leach before then?
From reports, he was one of the only positives from the Lions tour of WI.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #55 on: March 16, 2018, 10:35:14 PM »
We are indeed touring Sri Lanka, we took two or three spinners on the last tour and at present we only actually have Moeen as a spin option fit and available, despite this 'number one spinner' stuff we have heard in the last couple of seasons Ali is dead right describing himself as a batsman who bowls.He is exactly that.

So we do need someone else to come thou, might have been too early for Crane, Dawson didn't work out so we def need to try someone fairly quick.

The England management said the were going to prioritise overseas tours after the Ashes defeat, let's see if they actually mean that

By playing a specialist spinner, like Panesar was......means we really want to win in India/pakistan or Sri Lanka. And Australia even.

In my view, now Stokes is back, the batsmen need to start scoring runs, they are not doing enough at the moment, and a spinner needs runs behind him
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #56 on: March 16, 2018, 11:20:07 PM »
Separately, just watching the feed from NZ.

Vince has massive technical issues that should have been cleaned up well before now.
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #57 on: March 17, 2018, 06:20:41 AM »
Surely Vince goes and Malan moves up to 3?
I think they will go:

Cook
Stoneman
Malan
Root
Stokes
Bairstow
Livingstone
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #58 on: March 17, 2018, 07:07:37 AM »
Quote from: golders on March 17, 2018, 06:20:41 AM
Surely Vince goes and Malan moves up to 3?
I think they will go:

Cook
Stoneman
Malan
Root
Stokes
Bairstow
Livingstone
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson


I really hope they do but I think Vince will start the 1st test at least otherwise what was the point in taking him!

Good to see Stoneman getting a few and Stokes back in whites.

Final scorecard below..

Cricket Scorecard - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/scorecard/ECKO42168

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Re: England test tour to New Zealand
« Reply #59 on: March 17, 2018, 08:10:21 AM »
Quote from: Buzz on March 16, 2018, 11:20:07 PM
Separately, just watching the feed from NZ.

Vince has massive technical issues that should have been cleaned up well before now.


So do a lot of modern players but technical coaching seems to have gone in favour of range hitting. Just the modern way and Vince is a product of it.. can’t blame the lad really
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