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[Manormanic]

I think we have a decent number of number fives, and some good youngsters (I'd add Dan Lawrence to that list). But we need an opener to stick...

[Jlscarroll17]

There's two openers that could replace cook in my eyes and they are Rory burns and nick Browne, both consistently scored Above 1000 fc runs for some time now surely they deserve a call up

[Manormanic]

Burns might be a shirtfront bully. Browne certainly has scones.

[FattusCattus]

I still think Gubbins will feature at some point, Hameed only needs to string a few scores together, Bell-Drummond is on the radar, Robson may get a second go and Northeast- there are options possibly

[ppccopener]

Ali and Woakes both dropped for the second test

So two of three out of wood,leach and Vince in.....

Hmm....it's must mean a debut for jack leach I would think?

[edge]

Vince!?

[six and out]

Ali and Woakes both dropped for the second test

So two of three out of wood,leach and Vince in.....

Hmm....it's must mean a debut for jack leach I would think?

Think it's probably more Overton or Wood. Leach will play otherwise Root/Malan is only spin option

[Seniorplayer]

Ali and Woakes both dropped for the second test

So two of three out of wood,leach and Vince in.....

Hmm....it's must mean a debut for jack leach I would think?

Forum favourite Woakes dropped I don't believe it !

[Alvaro]

This team looks like a mid table county side.

[Mister Le Chiffre]

Hopefully it means we've moved on from Moeen. He had a few fluke efforts otherwise he's been average at best. Woakes' bowling has fallen away since the got that side strain last summer.

[FattusCattus]

Apparently spin is rather redundant at this ground, with spinners getting very few wickets and reduced to a largely supporting role, so they may go with 4 quicks and the part-timers. Stokes won't bowl.

I suspect they will go with:

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Stokes
YJB
Overton
Broad
Wood
Anderson

I would be tempted by:

Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Stokes
YJB
Livingstone
Overton
Broad
Wood
Anderson

3 x part time spinners between them will get more wickets than Mo currently manages.

[six and out]

Apparently spin is rather redundant at this ground, with spinners getting very few wickets and reduced to a largely supporting role, so they may go with 4 quicks and the part-timers. Stokes won't bowl.

I suspect they will go with:

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Stokes
YJB
Overton
Broad
Wood
Anderson

I would be tempted by:

Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Stokes
YJB
Livingstone
Overton
Broad
Wood
Anderson

3 x part time spinners between them will get more wickets than Mo currently manages.

We haven't played 4 out and out seamers in years (not including Stokes in that equation) so it will be interesting if they go with that option. But we are forced into a corner with Stokes not being able to bowl and Mo bowling dreadful.

Vince really is in last chance motel territory surely!

I really think it is an ideal time to have a look at Leach though - put him in, see what he is made of and it isn't turning a great deal then it's more of a test for him and we get a better idea of what he is made of etc....

I would like to see....

Cook
Stoneman
Vince - i don't like it but i think he has to play considering our batting situation at the moment.
Root
Malan
Stokes
YJB
Broad
Wood
Leach
Anderson

[northernboy1987]

Apparently spin is rather redundant at this ground, with spinners getting very few wickets and reduced to a largely supporting role, so they may go with 4 quicks and the part-timers. Stokes won't bowl.

I suspect they will go with:

Cook
Stoneman
Vince
Root
Malan
Stokes
YJB
Overton
Broad
Wood
Anderson

I would be tempted by:

Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Stokes
YJB
Livingstone
Overton
Broad
Wood
Anderson

3 x part time spinners between them will get more wickets than Mo currently manages.

People keep putting Livingstone in at 7 in their teams, just wondering what the thinking is @FattusCattus ? His future is very much as a top order batsman who bowls fairly part time leggies in my opinion rather than a genuine all round option. If I was playing the XI you mentioned I'd line up as follows:

Cook
Stoneman
Root
Malan
Livingstone
Stokes
YJB
Overton
Broad
Wood
Anderson

Stokes and Livingstone could swap I suppose if Stokes can't bowl but I wouldn't bat Livingstone any lower than 6 I don't think

[cricketbadger]

Think the idea is to ease him in gently, and at 7 he can hopefully come into bat with a bit less pressure on him. I can see the logic in it, prefer him to get some test match experience, instead of being chucked straight in and failing and being forgotten about. Investing a little more time now could prove successful in the long run

[Manormanic]

People keep putting Livingstone in at 7 in their teams, just wondering what the thinking is @FattusCattus ? His future is very much as a top order batsman who bowls fairly part time leggies in my opinion rather than a genuine all round option. If I was playing the XI you mentioned I'd line up as follows:

My thinking is that in my side, there are two specialist openers and four guys who are better batsmen than him.  Simples.