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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #495 on: June 04, 2018, 08:22:11 AM »

The specialist number 7 is an old position England used a lot in the 90's with hick and ramprakash both batting there.

It is unusual, it has worked and I guess it's takes the pressure off so he can play freely...

We looked a better side allround and now will give Jennings the whole summer you would think.

Stokes back for Curran and is that now our best side?

When Stokes  is back England should stick  with  20 year old Curran he  gave us a glimpse  of what he can do with both bat and ball allow  him to to develop his skills at test level  also learning from Broad and Anderson
England looked a better side but apart from Amer Pakistans batting bowling and fielding at times was poor.
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #496 on: June 04, 2018, 08:40:14 AM »

When Stokes  is back England should stick  with  20 year old Curran he  gave us a glimpse  of what he can do with both bat and ball allow  him to to develop his skills at test level
England looked a better side but apart from Amer Pakistans batting bowling and fielding at times was poor.

so you're saying they should drop Woakes?

shock!

although i though Curran did well and will be a part of England plans there no way he wont drop out when stokes returns
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #497 on: June 04, 2018, 09:01:23 AM »

so you're saying they should drop Woakes?

shock!

although i though Curran did well and will be a part of England plans there no way he wont drop out when stokes returns

On the first morning the way the Duke  ball was hooping around  in the humid conditions any  seamer who  pitched the ball up would have taken wickets fancied a bowl myself.
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #498 on: June 04, 2018, 09:23:06 AM »

The specialist number 7 is an old position England used a lot in the 90's with hick and ramprakash both batting there.

It is unusual, it has worked and I guess it's takes the pressure off so he can play freely...



England have had a batsman at no.8 for much of the past few years.
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #499 on: June 04, 2018, 09:31:56 AM »

Indeed, Moeen Ali might have reason to feel slughtly aggrieved at never having been given similar 'specialist' license himself?
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #500 on: June 04, 2018, 09:32:40 AM »

On the first morning the way the ball was hooping around  in the humid conditions any  seamer who  pitched the ball up would have taken wickets fancied a bowl myself.

and yet on comms they were saying anderson was too short, so the fact woakes pitched it up and bowled a better length than jimmy means nothing to you?
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #501 on: June 04, 2018, 09:54:12 AM »

Indeed, Moeen Ali might have reason to feel slughtly aggrieved at never having been given similar 'specialist' license himself?


That’s not quite right as Ali was in as the only spinner but I do see your point

As I posted a while back ‘what next for mo ali’ It’s becomes harder for him to get back in

He sees himself as a batsman who bowls so you can see the irony
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #502 on: June 04, 2018, 10:31:13 AM »

That’s not quite right as Ali was in as the only spinner but I do see your point

As I posted a while back ‘what next for mo ali’ It’s becomes harder for him to get back in

He sees himself as a batsman who bowls so you can see the irony

Well for his sake he better set the domestic season alite with runs and wickets for a chance to get back in, would be picking stokes, Woakes, Bess and Sam Curran all before him in the all rounder slot. Yes im using that term loosely for Sam Curran currently.
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« Reply #503 on: June 04, 2018, 11:23:35 AM »

but I do see your point


I'm glad. While Moeen never looked convincing  as a frontline spinner, he was often awesome in the role Buttler has been given.
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #504 on: June 04, 2018, 11:24:11 AM »

and yet on comms they were saying anderson was too short, so the fact woakes pitched it up and bowled a better length than jimmy means nothing to you?
Woakes did pitch the ball up and on the first day the conditions got the wickets
jimmy showed all his experience bowled the correct length for each batsman  throughout the match he made them play

 the ball at times he was so good the batsman were clueless
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #505 on: June 04, 2018, 11:26:45 AM »

Well for his sake he better set the domestic season alite with runs and wickets for a chance to get back in, would be picking stokes, Woakes, Bess and Sam Curran all before him in the all rounder slot. Yes im using that term loosely for Sam Curran currently.

I'd wager Sam Curran is a better batsman than Dom Bess. 
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #506 on: June 04, 2018, 11:27:23 AM »

Joseph Buttler further England captain
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #507 on: June 04, 2018, 11:29:03 AM »

I'd wager Sam Curran is a better batsman than Dom Bess.

And they both out scored forum favourite woakes
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #508 on: June 04, 2018, 11:36:09 AM »

I'm glad. While Moeen never looked convincing  as a frontline spinner, he was often awesome in the role Buttler has been given.

Totally agree. The problem with Ali is he is not a frontline spinner like for example leach
Ali’s selection was always coming to this point, he consistently selection in an upside down role

He is a batsman first and foremost
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Re: England Test Series vs Pakistan
« Reply #509 on: June 04, 2018, 12:45:31 PM »

And they both out scored forum favourite woakes

forum favourite out bowled both of them put together - they are in the side to bowl, the batting is a bonus
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