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Bats breaking
« on: May 17, 2018, 09:45:02 PM »

How many bats have people broken? And how long on average do yours last? So far in past 3 seasons I had a players Aldred crack through toe and was wrecked. A Slazenger grade 1 that split on edge and is just about holding on as I use it for nets. Last night my kook onyx split through toe and I’m hoping some glue will hold but I’m not sure it will. I maybe in need of a new bat and wondering if going cheap is way forward. These higher grade bats don’t seem to last long. Might pop into Hunts and see what they can advise/offer.
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2018, 09:49:00 PM »

Personally iv never had a bat break past the point of repair.
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2018, 10:29:49 PM »

Are they breaking in games or nets?  For a number of years the only bats I broke to a state that they were completely unusable were in the nets.  Since we stopped players from using their own balls (i.e. sports direct specials) and required them to bowl with old league balls, I haven't destroyed a single bat
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2018, 02:29:33 AM »

How many bats have people broken? And how long on average do yours last? So far in past 3 seasons I had a players Aldred crack through toe and was wrecked. A Slazenger grade 1 that split on edge and is just about holding on as I use it for nets. Last night my kook onyx split through toe and I’m hoping some glue will hold but I’m not sure it will. I maybe in need of a new bat and wondering if going cheap is way forward. These higher grade bats don’t seem to last long. Might pop into Hunts and see what they can advise/offer.

My first bat developed a hair line crack in the handle. Another net bat lost its handle as well. Other than that I've had edge cracks here and there but nothing too severe. I do mallet the toe area well and don't dig out yorkers too hard.

As a rule, I never take any "higher grade" bat to the nets unless it is hard pressed (and they generally remain "performance free" :D ). Match bats never see nets. Only bat I ever net with is my current Keeley and it turned out a beauty :D . I have dug out some yorkers with that bat and (knock on wood) the toe has held up well. It is an exceptionally pressed bat.

I keep nets bats separate from match bats. In terms of breaks, I have noticed that lighters bats (2-6 to 2-9) in my club tend to break more often than heavy/medium (2-10 +) weight bats.

I guess it boils down to how you use them, where (nets v/s match), and how you bat.
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2018, 02:46:08 AM »

I thought your XP80 went through the toe? in fact didn't they all?
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2018, 03:10:55 AM »

I thought your XP80 went through the toe? in fact didn't they all?

Toe is intact. My complaint was that the toe doesn't have much life - it is too thin. At one point, I did consider buying a 2-12+ XP80-2000 and sawing off an 3/4 inch of the toe. Bat surgeries are risky so I scrapped the idea.

The best bat I ever used for cutting/pulling and driving full deliveries is my CA-SM 18...phenomenal bat!
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2018, 03:46:39 AM »

broken many bats in my time, tend to use 2 a season in the nets and 1-2 in games.
think it comes down to so many factors you cant put a definitive reason why.
over-drying?
smaller shoulders to maximize swell?
poor quality handles?
environmental factors such as leaving kits in car boots ?
so many variables.
also depends what you would class as a break, is that terminal or just a repair. if just a repair, i break my net bats every month, couple cracks here and there
Synthetic surface training also
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2018, 05:27:25 AM »

Never broken a bat and have had bats that are still going after 20+ years. Only real damage suffered was the handle of my h4l nv snapped and I got it r handled.
I think this is down to luck, good knocking in, being more of a stroke player rathe than a bludger, being able to pick a Yorker and never attempting to drive them, not being obsessed with large, lightweight bats.
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2018, 05:40:04 AM »

And the quality of balls being used should be considered.
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2018, 08:17:02 AM »

In over 50 years of buying bats Only ever had one bat break used by a colleague in the indoor nets he hit the toe hard on the ground with his full weight behind it the blade snapped in half.
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2018, 08:25:27 AM »

Toe is intact. My complaint was that the toe doesn't have much life - it is too thin. At one point, I did consider buying a 2-12+ XP80-2000 and sawing off an 3/4 inch of the toe. Bat surgeries are risky so I scrapped the idea.

The best bat I ever used for cutting/pulling and driving full deliveries is my CA-SM 18...phenomenal bat!
From experience
Sawing 3/4 inch of dead wood off the  bottom of the bat won't  be detrimential to  the bats  balance or ping it  just lowers the middle and helps pick up
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2018, 09:16:29 AM »

Never broken a bat and have had bats that are still going after 20+ years. Only real damage suffered was the handle of my h4l nv snapped and I got it r handled.
I think this is down to luck, good knocking in, being more of a stroke player rathe than a bludger, being able to pick a Yorker and never attempting to drive them, not being obsessed with large, lightweight bats.
Snapping a handle and having to replace it doesn't count as broken? ;)
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2018, 09:21:14 AM »

How many bats have people broken? And how long on average do yours last? So far in past 3 seasons I had a players Aldred crack through toe and was wrecked. A Slazenger grade 1 that split on edge and is just about holding on as I use it for nets. Last night my kook onyx split through toe and I’m hoping some glue will hold but I’m not sure it will. I maybe in need of a new bat and wondering if going cheap is way forward. These higher grade bats don’t seem to last long. Might pop into Hunts and see what they can advise/offer.

In my opinion buy kashmir willow for nets. Will cost you around 50 and save your expensive bats for matches.
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2018, 09:28:37 AM »

I’ve only even used one bat to destruction, a CA white gold that lasted about 4-5 seasons of heavy use.

Have had a few others retire due to loss of performance thought age or repairs but never to an unusable stage.

Most types of damage is repairable tbh.
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Re: Bats breaking
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2018, 10:30:57 AM »

I actually threw out my first ever broken bat yearerday......exploded toe . I could have saved /repaired it but it had slid right down the pecking order to last (#15?) and was just my 'use and abuse net bat' for the last yr or so.
It was my match bat for 2 seasons and faced about 300-500 balls on the machines almost every week (barring 6 mth break due to injury) for the past 4 yrs. She served me well.
Other than that ive had a few slight toe cracks and a hairline fracture in a shoulder and thats it.
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