Topic: And we wonder why kids don't want to play (Read 19632 times)

SLA · « **Reply #105 on:** July 04, 2018, 02:38:57 PM »

Quote from: hopwoodbear on July 04, 2018, 02:13:49 PM

to a degree being exposed to competitive league cricket played by men where mistakes had consequences and just trying your best wasn't always good enough shaped my love for the game

i was treated just the same as any other player, criticism when you could and should have done better and when you made a contribution you felt 10feet tall from the respect and praise from the senior guys on the team

there is clearly a balance and i get that some people have different ideas of how competitive they want their cricket but growing up playing 2nd XI league cricket as a kid was character forming...it wasnt an easy ride of hand holding and blokes modifying their behaviour or skill levels to your level

experiencing conflict, dealing with poor sportsmanship, finding your own way to tough things out...all within the context of a game and on a pitch that you walk off at the end of the day isnt easy but it has its rewards

Does competitive have to be abusive, though? You can bowl a quick bouncer and follow it up with a glare, but do you really have to comment on the sexuality and parentage of the batsman, and then have all the slips join in with thinly-veiled threats?

six and out · « **Reply #106 on:** July 04, 2018, 07:48:30 PM »

Just seen This on Twitter ... anyone play in this league??

Do you think more will follow suit?

https://twitter.com/RibblesdaleCL/status/1014582359562342400?s=19

ppccopener · « **Reply #107 on:** July 04, 2018, 08:13:49 PM »

Quote from: six and out on July 04, 2018, 07:48:30 PM

Just seen This on Twitter ... anyone play in this league??

Do you think more will follow suit?

https://twitter.com/RibblesdaleCL/status/1014582359562342400?s=19

You would doubt the bigger leagues would follow suit. Can't remember ever having a league fixture rearranged ever, and I can't think myself of a valid reason to do so..

It's quite simple, if players want to watch the football, and I totally get why they would, they have to concede the fixture.

In an ideal world, you know you only got 7 players, turn up at the oppo and none of them have turned up, claim the ten points and get down the pub

edge · « **Reply #108 on:** July 04, 2018, 08:21:56 PM »

That's farcical, looks like quite a few pissed off clubs in there!

In Bristol the league's gone for the compromise option and allowed clubs to move start times and/or drop overs to allow for football. We're playing 40 overs with an early start and ridiculously long tea, our 2s are starting a 35 over game at 10.30am! Could catch on that...

t2ylo · « **Reply #109 on:** July 04, 2018, 09:40:19 PM »

30 overs from 11am for us. Turn straight around & tea in the pub with the Match

Keen village cricketers give up their Saturdays all summer for years at a time - it�s not fair to give up the biggest football match in 22 years as well.

That said I�m sure I played Armitage away in 1996 when England beat Spain on pens - in a friendly timed game

JB · « **Reply #110 on:** July 05, 2018, 03:08:33 AM »

Our league has moved the games to the 2nd September. I wouldn�t have missed the cricket to watch the football.

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #111 on:** July 05, 2018, 08:13:10 AM »

Our league has said games can start as early as 10am (usually 1.30pm) and/or can play T20 provided, in both cases, both teams agree.

Its entirely sensible. Countless players would have made themselves unavailable across a league that is losing players monthly. By doing this it ensures shorter games with strong teams which in my eyes doesn't compromise the integrity of the league. Otherwise we'd have teams fielding weakened teams of 8 or so players and teams being docked points for not turning up.

The league has gone up in many teams estimations, judging by the email responses.as such, we're starting at T20 game at noon, with tea in the clubhouse afterwards to accompany the game.

Leagues have to guage the mood of the playing public. Leagues need to leave their egos at the door and make a sensible, popular decision.

SD · « **Reply #112 on:** July 05, 2018, 08:20:26 AM »

It is a no-win situation for exec committees. Keep the fixtures as they are and half the players won't play. Allow them to be moved and the other half will complain about bending over backwards to accommodate football.

My league has allowed teams to agree to earlier start times or s longer tea break which seems the most sensible option but there is still criticism from players on both sides of the fence

SD · « **Reply #113 on:** July 05, 2018, 08:22:54 AM »

Quote from: hopwoodbear on July 04, 2018, 02:13:49 PM

to a degree being exposed to competitive league cricket played by men where mistakes had consequences and just trying your best wasn't always good enough shaped my love for the game

i was treated just the same as any other player, criticism when you could and should have done better and when you made a contribution you felt 10feet tall from the respect and praise from the senior guys on the team

there is clearly a balance and i get that some people have different ideas of how competitive they want their cricket but growing up playing 2nd XI league cricket as a kid was character forming...it wasnt an easy ride of hand holding and blokes modifying their behaviour or skill levels to your level

experiencing conflict, dealing with poor sportsmanship, finding your own way to tough things out...all within the context of a game and on a pitch that you walk off at the end of the day isnt easy but it has its rewards

I would agree entirely with this. Being exposed to league cricket from the age of 14 was character forming both inside and outside of sport

SLA · « **Reply #114 on:** July 05, 2018, 08:47:41 AM »

Both our 1st and 2nd team games on Saturday are cancelled because the oppo refused to play. Which is (No Swearing Please) (No Swearing Please) for the players who were looking forward to an enjoyable Saturday of cricket in this beautiful weather.

What an absolute joke. I bet football leagues didn't cancel a round of fixtures when England got to the cricket world cup final in 2016.

SLA · « **Reply #115 on:** July 05, 2018, 08:49:50 AM »

Quote from: t2ylo on July 04, 2018, 09:40:19 PM

30 overs from 11am for us. Turn straight around & tea in the pub with the Match

Keen village cricketers give up their Saturdays all summer for years at a time - it�s not fair to give up the biggest football match in 22 years as well.

That said I�m sure I played Armitage away in 1996 when England beat Spain on pens - in a friendly timed game

22 years? Didn't we get to the quarters in 2006? That's 12 years.

SLA · « **Reply #116 on:** July 05, 2018, 08:51:30 AM »

We have a T20 game scheduled for Wednesday evening that I am looking forward to. So I'll be enthusiastically cheering on Sweden on Saturday.

six and out · « **Reply #117 on:** July 05, 2018, 08:57:46 AM »

Quote from: SD on July 05, 2018, 08:20:26 AM

It is a no-win situation for exec committees. Keep the fixtures as they are and half the players won't play. Allow them to be moved and the other half will complain about bending over backwards to accommodate football.

My league has allowed teams to agree to earlier start times or s longer tea break which seems the most sensible option but there is still criticism from players on both sides of the fence

Yep definitely, no win situation, there are 2 sides to this completely.

I have spoken to our captain this morning and we aren't changing at all - still 1.30pm start (although i am not playing as i have a suspected broken toe), the league apparently haven't said anything so our usual rules apply - you can start at 12.30pm if everyone agrees - that isn't going to make a difference though with KO at 3pm.

It will certainly be interesting what sides people put out - and how many games get conceded etc....

t2ylo · « **Reply #118 on:** July 05, 2018, 09:52:08 AM »

Quote from: SLA on July 05, 2018, 08:49:50 AM

22 years? Didn't we get to the quarters in 2006? That's 12 years.

My mistake. I must have blocked that one out.
Can�t remember who we played that day... I�d have been somewhere in Yorkshire.

Big Mac · « **Reply #119 on:** July 05, 2018, 10:35:05 AM »

Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on July 03, 2018, 08:17:37 PM

Assume England go through ...

What�s everyone�s league doing about timings ?? Given if they don�t change a lot of players simply won�t play

Quote from: Seniorplayer on July 03, 2018, 08:44:09 PM

Well the worcs league haven't allowed change previously when England have played in big footsie games.

We've (Worcs County League) have been told it's up to an agreement between both teams. Early start (11am) and a 10 min turnaround between innings to get a few overs in before the footballerising begins whereupon we'll have up to a 3 hour tea break depending on whether it goes to penalties or not.

We're away this weekend so I'm not looking forward to trying to cobble together a full XI at 9am on a Saturday morning.

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