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England Vs India Test Matches
« on: July 06, 2018, 03:57:39 PM »
Ahead of the first test on August 1st a lions squad has been announced for a tour game vs India A starting 16th July at worcester

Cook, Burns, gubbins, Malan, Pope, Woakes, Curran, Bess, Fisher, Leach, Porter

six test players in the squad (in bold)
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2018, 03:59:45 PM »
You could argue barring cook and woakes the rest aren’t really test players yet.. just the odd cap
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2018, 04:09:27 PM »
they've played a test match, they're test players unfortuntely that makes darren pattinson a test player but still....
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2018, 04:44:00 PM »
Pope getting the gloves ahead of Foakes?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2018, 10:45:07 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on July 06, 2018, 04:44:00 PM
Pope getting the gloves ahead of Foakes?

I was thinking the same thing!
I know Pope is averaging some very decent 1st Class run stats, but I still think Foakes deserves a break.
Saying that and looking at it from a different point of view, I guess the selectors realise that Foakes has some quality to offer. But maybe they are testing Pope to see how he performs at a slightly better level?
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2018, 06:19:15 AM »
Quote from: petehosk on July 06, 2018, 10:45:07 PM
I was thinking the same thing!
I know Pope is averaging some very decent 1st Class run stats, but I still think Foakes deserves a break.
Saying that and looking at it from a different point of view, I guess the selectors realise that Foakes has some quality to offer. But maybe they are testing Pope to see how he performs at a slightly better level?

They know what Foakes can do so I don't think it's anything really against him. By giving Pope the gloves it also allows them to have a look at another bowler ie. Both Bess and Leach against each other.
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2018, 02:52:57 PM »
Quote from: Manormanic on July 06, 2018, 04:44:00 PM
Pope getting the gloves ahead of Foakes?
Must be a deal with Surrey as Foakes will probably captain Surrey.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2018, 06:21:44 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on July 07, 2018, 02:52:57 PM
Must be a deal with Surrey as Foakes will probably captain Surrey.

Do other counties get these deals?  Surely if Foakes is the best pick he should be picked?
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2018, 06:22:32 PM »
Though I suppose Surrey would argue they've already contributed three to the squad with Burns and Curran. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2018, 09:54:09 PM »
I suspect Alec Stewart is an adept politician with the selectors, Foakes hasn't played much for Surrey and we are providing a load of players for international duty

However as are Yorkshire, so I suspect they need to get better at doing a Stewie!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2018, 05:27:16 AM »
Quote from: Buzz on July 07, 2018, 09:54:09 PM
I suspect Alec Stewart is an adept politician with the selectors, Foakes hasn't played much for Surrey and we are providing a load of players for international duty

However as are Yorkshire, so I suspect they need to get better at doing a Stewie!

I think those bridges were burned circa the Lords game two years ago.   The fact that Matt Fisher is in the squad, despite not playing a single first class game this year, and only one last year, is particularly galling given how crucial he is to our white ball team (yes, I agree incidentally that he is a future test player...but not yet!)
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2018, 06:35:11 AM »
Quote from: Manormanic on July 07, 2018, 06:21:44 PM
Do other counties get these deals?  Surely if Foakes is the best pick he should be picked?
If that was the way the Lions was picked the above squad would look very different!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2018, 12:38:27 PM »
England starting well in the A match today, we still need Cook's runs this summer there's surely no doubt about that.

Gubbins again thou getting runs, this guy has been a bit unlucky not to feature yet.

Vijay,Pant,yadav and Rahane all in India's side, they have some strength in depth now.

cant wait for the test series!
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2018, 04:47:11 PM »
Rory Burns might regret missing out today. 
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Re: England Vs India Test Matches
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2018, 09:40:50 PM »
Quote from: Buzz on July 07, 2018, 02:52:57 PM
Must be a deal with Surrey as Foakes will probably captain Surrey.
Turns out Surrey are playing the Windies A team and using the Kent Wicket keeper Rouse as foakes is being rested.
Staggering that Surrey are playing without about 3 keepers.
But Burns and Pope are with the Lions, Foakes rested and Smith is with Eng U19s...
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