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Who should be the England wicket keeper?

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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2010, 09:52:19 PM »

Such a poor statement to make. Prior was born in SA, I don't think he'd appreciate being called South African though.
agreed there. i was born in england, but i'm half irish and my family is from ireland, and I don't like being called english, so i'd 'assume' that he would be the same. same with strauss as well.

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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #61 on: February 16, 2010, 02:02:41 AM »

england have got two options, carry on with the inconsistent prior, or chuck someone young like kieswetter or davies in there to see what they can do. i want to be biased (somerset) by saying kieswetter, but i think both of them could cut it at international level with bat and gloves

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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2010, 02:03:23 AM »

you wear your england test shirt all the time tumo!
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2010, 08:51:19 AM »

agreed there. i was born in england, but i'm half irish and my family is from ireland, and I don't like being called english, so i'd 'assume' that he would be the same. same with strauss as well.

i have the feeling as england captain strauss wouldn't mind being called english?
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2010, 10:05:50 AM »

you know what i mean peplow! he wouldnt want to be called a saffer

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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2010, 10:12:51 AM »

Kieswetter averages <30 in First Class domestic cricket when he's not batting at Taunton. Yet he's being spoken of as a "batting-keeper". Lest us forget that he shells routine chances far too regularly for my liking.
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2010, 10:15:10 AM »

Have any idea of Foster/davies and Priors Fc stats home and away?
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2010, 10:16:08 AM »

dont know off the top of my head , but i'd be suprised if foster's dident have pretty good stats home and away from the county ground.
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2010, 10:56:02 AM »

Have any idea of Foster/davies and Priors Fc stats home and away?

Not off the top off my head. Depending on how bored I am through the week I might work them out for the 09 season.
Even if there is some difference it won't be as apparent as it is in Kieswetter, hardly surprising that he scores the bulk of his runs on the road at Taunton :p
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2010, 10:58:04 AM »

I think Kieswetter will be introduced in the not to distant future as a player to groom into a top class batsman/wicket keeper in the top 5 batting slots as we have struggled to replace him since Stewart retired. He has youth on his side and is obviously talented!
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2010, 11:00:50 AM »

Why do you think Somerset has got such a poor bowling line-up - no bowler in their right mind is going to want to move here!
Agree with what you say about Kieswetter, he does score a lot of runs at home - but like i said previosuly, he has the potential to be a truly magnificent international keeper despite what the stats say, statistically ramprakash and hick should have scored thousands of international runs but they didnt - plus i'm bias, i want to see a Somerset player back in the england squad!
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2010, 06:19:53 PM »

taunton wicket could be changing, phil frost has been axed!!

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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #72 on: February 17, 2010, 07:38:22 PM »

Just thought I'd drop this in here ...
http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/97/97648/f_Batting_by_Ground.html

Without looking, who can guess how many tons Kieswetter has made when not playing at Taunton?
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2010, 07:43:21 PM »

taunton wicket could be changing, phil frost has been axed!!


yeha, at last, you have no idea how long I wanted this...well, 2 years but you get the idea. No way can Somerset win a title when they have a strip that cannot produce a result inside 4 days

Just thought I'd drop this in here ...
http://www.cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/97/97648/f_Batting_by_Ground.html

Without looking, who can guess how many tons Kieswetter has made when not playing at Taunton?


you make a good point, but its hard to judge very well being 80% of those venues he has had only 2 innings at, thats like saying Trott is the best player england has because on his first game against the aussies/internatonial teams he got a century
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Re: Who should be the england keeper?
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2010, 07:46:31 PM »

yeha, at last, you have no idea how long I wanted this...well, 2 years but you get the idea. No way can Somerset win a title when they have a strip that cannot produce a result inside 4 days

you make a good point, but its hard to judge very well being 80% of those venues he has had only 2 innings at, thats like saying Trott is the best player england has because on his first game against the aussies/internatonial teams he got a century

It's not about individual grounds, I'm not saying "Don't pick him for the Headingly Test! In the 3 innings he's played there he's averaged x amount" or anything like that.
The fact of the matter is that Kieswetter plays half of his games at home and half away. He's yet to score a ton away from home and his averagely is largely inflated from smashing runs on the flattest deck in the country.
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