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Matt Prior

Jams Foster

Craig Kieswetter

Tim Ambrose

Steven Davies

[The Finisher]

finisher have you ever seen keiswetter live i can tell you one thing he is doing well but i suspect a young Englishman will take his place in the Somerset side very soon just a hunch

seeing as i live about 30 mins from the ground and stay at my auntys who live by the morrisons next to the ground iv seen a fair bit of him iv netted with him for a whole week him and jimmy cook

[Marcussjd9]

yes seriously wat the diffence the weather is always dependant on the day the pitch could be used for 3 games in  a row its still bat versus ball with more intent on scoring runs not a huge amoutn of diffence

It's an entirely different game. It's cricket, I'll give you that but OD and FC are just not comparable.
You can't use the fact a player's good at one to why he's good at another.
It's been a mistake of the England set up far too many times over the last few years, pick players performing well in FC cricket in the ODI team and then give them a shot in the Test side if they do well in ODIs. It's a joke.

[Marcussjd9]

seeing as i live about 30 mins from the ground and stay at my auntys who live by the morrisons next to the ground iv seen a fair bit of him iv netted with him for a whole week him and jimmy cook

I'll put it down to being biased then.

[procricket]

To be fair i dont think he would keep for Somerst if he was not such a decent batsman

[The Finisher]

well if you net with someone u see them up close and yes biased as i have several kieswetter and othe rplayers jumpers from that week

[procricket]

ok one final question Why is Prior not good enough?

[Tumo]

kieswetter is a good batsman-keeper. when he's allowed to be aggressive, he's phenomenal with the bat. his keeping is a bit rusty though. even taking into account my notts bias, i'd rate the keeping (not the batting!) in this order at the moment:

1)Foster
2)Read
3)Ben Scott
4)Mustard
5)Davies
6)Prior
7)Kieswetter

and the batting as:

1)Prior
2)Davies
3)Kieswetter
4)Read
5)Scott
6)Foster
7)Mustard

it seems we've all forgotten Nic Pothas! Probably the best keeper batsman in the country, shame he's very old though!

and finisher - yes, you may have netted with him for a week, but i've seen him quite a bit on telly (Sky sports seem to love chelmsford and taunton - wonder why...) and his keeping has been everywhere from fantastic to down-right awful... whereas i've rarely seen foster put down a chance, i've only seen read put one or two down, and i've not seen prior do much wrong recently! just my opinion though mate...

And Marcus - Agreed COMPLETELY! Why do we blood players like Rashid (with an average to poor List A/Domestic 20/20 record) in the short form, when his best performances with both bat AND ball come in the longer form? And then Tredwell, who has an average FC record, gets called up as cover for Swann in the TEST arena? Surely his phenomenal one day record should mean he gets called up for ODI's as opposed to tests... Ugh, the idiocies of the selectors!

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[The Finisher]

ok one final question Why is Prior not good enough?

never said he wasnt i jsut said kieswetter was better

[procricket]

big bold statement would kieswtter average 40 in test cricket  look around the world prior is currently in the top 2 in the new batsman/keeper slot

[Ashvir]

Yep

[peplow]

so on that evdience taking batting and keepin ginto account read is the best?? but is he actually tumo??

[The Finisher]

big bold statement would kieswtter average 40 in test cricket  look around the world prior is currently in the top 2 in the new batsman/keeper slot

just my opinion and to me i dnt look at averages its on the day and the key innings that do it for me

[procricket]

infact i tell a lie i know its stats based but did anybody know Matt Prior as a keeper/batsman is ranked number 1 in the world

[Marcussjd9]

Prior's keeping is good enough and he's the best batsman of the lot. So he gets my vote.
Once your glovework is "good enough" then it comes down to the best batsman in my opinion.
Kieswetter's glovework is shoddy and he's nowhere near being the best available keeper-batsman.
Davies and Prior are better with both gloves and willow.

[Marcussjd9]

The only way Kieswetter would average anywhere near 40 in Test cricket is if we played Banglades/Pakistan away every single series.