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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2018, 12:45:58 PM »

The 50's was a bit of a golden era for English bowling with Tyson, Truman, Statham, Bedser, Laker (not that they all played at the same time). Anderson is a very, very skillful bowler and deserves to be up there with the best of all time for England. I think (in general) terms bowlers from the past probably use cutters more often on uncovered pitches whereas today they may use slower balls more. Great debate @FattusCattus, I'm sure there is a cricket nerd out there that could recreate a match on Cricket Captain and tell us the result!

Statham and Truman bowling in partnership were excellent
Saw laker take 19 wickets take his sweater a few handshakes and walk off the field
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2018, 02:05:07 PM »

Not much love for Larwood I see. admittedly his percentages aren;t great, but by all accounts he was frighteningly fast.

How about this attack for an 80's West Indies tour -

Larwood
Truman
Harmison
Willis

with Snow as reserve!
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2018, 03:55:47 PM »

Not much love for Larwood I see. admittedly his percentages aren;t great, but by all accounts he was frighteningly fast.

How about this attack for an 80's West Indies tour -

Larwood
Truman
Harmison
Willis

with Snow as reserve!

Nearly got to face Snow his father was the vicar of a village in Worcester and John was home from university and  in the team but the rain poured down just as we were about to bat and the match was abandoned
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2018, 06:05:33 PM »

Of all he noleers mentioned, I think Anderson is the one who would be successful across all eras.   He is unplayable in overcast conditions on today's covered and well prepared pitches.   With his control and ability to move the hall both ways, he would have been lethal on the green decks of yesteryear. 
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2018, 06:08:34 PM »

Not much love for Larwood I see. admittedly his percentages aren;t great, but by all accounts he was frighteningly fast.

How about this attack for an 80's West Indies tour -

Larwood
Truman
Harmison
Willis

with Snow as reserve!

In terms of pace for the era he played and ability to bowl intimidating spells, Larwood is probably only competing with Tyson for that role.  It is difficult to conceive  in today's game with all the kit players have access to the Tysons career at the top level was ended by wearing a badly fitting our of boots
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2018, 06:22:15 PM »

Of all he noleers mentioned, I think Anderson is the one who would be successful across all eras.   He is unplayable in overcast conditions on today's covered and well prepared pitches.   With his control and ability to move the hall both ways, he would have been lethal on the green decks of yesteryear.

I think  seamers of any era can get wickets on green tops even Mediocre ones
Seriously Anderson is Englands best ever
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2018, 06:28:35 PM »

I think  seamers of any era can get wickets on green tops even Mediocre ones
Seriously Anderson is Englands best ever

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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2018, 09:28:08 PM »

More topics like this please, and less about whether certain brands of bat hit different qualities of balls further or not...
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2018, 03:25:00 AM »

Agree with above 05 attack had pace accuracy bounce and both swings

True man
Snow
Willis
Botham
Underwood


Anderson
Harmison
Flintoff
Jones
Swann

My picks

Nice to have cricket debate mr cat

Anderson didn't play in the 2005 series. Neither did Swann. Nevertheless, agreed. 2005 pace attack was the best all conditions pace attack.
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2018, 07:19:18 AM »

If you put Swann in the 2005 side I’m not sure it could be any better

Jones for me made that special. Bowling Clarke when he shouldered arms and the crowd rising as one behind him takes some beating as a top sporting moment.

That and the umpire taking the bails off when I started blubbing like a baby
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2018, 07:25:19 AM »

If you put Swann in the 2005 side I’m not sure it could be any better

Jones for me made that special. Bowling Clarke when he shouldered arms and the crowd rising as one behind him takes some beating as a top sporting moment.

That and the umpire taking the bails off when I started blubbing like a baby

Steve Harmison bowling Clarke with a slower ball Yorker on the last ball of he day at edgbaston was rather special!

Will never forget Richie Benoud comms at the end of that game..... “jones..... Bowden...... kasprowich the man to go”
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Re: Which 'generation' of England bowling attack?
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2018, 07:48:18 AM »

The pace attack in 2005 was exceptional but the bowling would certainly have improved of Swann had been available to replace Giles.
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