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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #240 on: November 06, 2018, 09:42:06 PM »

Bairstow is quite simply not good enough to open or go 3. Neither is Roy
Reckon you're probably right on Bairstow with his current hanging legside, I'll hold judgement on Roy though and see how it goes if he ever does get a go. His defensive game is pretty solid (when he uses it!), who's to say he can't make the mental shift to test batting.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #241 on: November 06, 2018, 09:45:43 PM »

Reckon you're probably right on Bairstow with his current hanging legside, I'll hold judgement on Roy though and see how it goes if he ever does get a go. His defensive game is pretty solid (when he uses it!), who's to say he can't make the mental shift to test batting.

The fact he isn’t doing it at county level suggests it. White ball form is irrelevant to test cricket
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« Reply #242 on: November 06, 2018, 09:45:59 PM »

I heard a really interesting stat about Bairstow today on the Cricket Social....

He has only ever scored his test 100's when England batted 1st ie. Before he has had to keep wicket. His highest score in all other innings is something like 80 odd.

I think that really does put a case forward that Bairstow should be playing as a batter only.

For me it is a simple case of conditions. We have a all rounder spin bowler batting at 3, so we can play 3 spinners. That just isn't going to happen anywhere else apart from maybe India. So Bairstow replaces whichever bowler dependent on conditions and then the order adjusts.
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« Reply #243 on: November 06, 2018, 09:52:58 PM »

I heard a really interesting stat about Bairstow today on the Cricket Social....

He has only ever scored his test 100's when England batted 1st ie. Before he has had to keep wicket. His highest score in all other innings is something like 80 odd.

I think that really does put a case forward that Bairstow should be playing as a batter only.

For me it is a simple case of conditions. We have a all rounder spin bowler batting at 3, so we can play 3 spinners. That just isn't going to happen anywhere else apart from maybe India. So Bairstow replaces whichever bowler dependent on conditions and then the order adjusts.

But he’s not good enough for 3.. square peg round hole
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« Reply #244 on: November 06, 2018, 09:58:46 PM »

But he’s not good enough for 3.. square peg round hole

I didn't say he would be batting 3. I said the batting order adjusts.
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #245 on: November 06, 2018, 10:06:47 PM »

I didn't say he would be batting 3. I said the batting order adjusts.

Roots a 4.. stokes a 6.. who is shuffling where ? You’ll end up with a square peg, round hole
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #246 on: November 06, 2018, 10:16:31 PM »

The fact he isn’t doing it at county level suggests it. White ball form is irrelevant to test cricket
His county record is alright to be fair, especially considering how little of it he's played in the last few years when he's been at his best. Higher first class average (38.4) than most to have come into the England side lately.

Slightly more on topic... anyone seen any news come out about Chandimal's potential injury?
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #247 on: November 06, 2018, 10:20:13 PM »

There are other variables here. One, we're assuming Foakes goes on to bed in (he looked to the manor born but who knows how he will manage against better opportunity). More interesting - temperament wise, he looked suited to the top order...
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #248 on: November 07, 2018, 12:29:40 AM »

England need to make a decision as to who will bat at 3 now Root isn't going to do it (and never should have been coerced by Bayliss into giving it a go in the first place) and the short termist selection off Ali has only made it more difficult to eventually resolve.  If Bairstow is to get back into the side it would have to be to bat at 3.  If the current players unsure of a place, Foakes probably has the best defence and temperament for the job, but he can't do it and keep and Butler doesn't have the game to bat that high in red ball cricket.  Seems to me to be a straight contest between Roy and Bairstow to bat 3 in the Windies
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #249 on: November 07, 2018, 05:19:06 AM »

Ton up Foakes well batted
And Jimmy has prised one out already! Ct Foakes

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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #250 on: November 07, 2018, 08:31:33 AM »

Chaps - question please.
I am listening to BBC commentary but there is no real commentary!! They are just gassing away with no commentary on the actual cricket!!
Does anyone know where I can listen to some actual proper live commentary?
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #251 on: November 07, 2018, 08:39:13 AM »

Chaps - question please.
I am listening to BBC commentary but there is no real commentary!! They are just gassing away with no commentary on the actual cricket!!
Does anyone know where I can listen to some actual proper live commentary?
Talksport 2 is the only option in UK, you might need to download an app or it might be on DAB if you're in the right area.

I use the Radioplayer app, its free
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #252 on: November 07, 2018, 08:45:42 AM »

Also the talksport website
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #253 on: November 07, 2018, 08:53:21 AM »

Thanks chaps! Excellent!
BBC was getting on my nerves!
That's much better  :D
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Re: Sri Lanka vs England test series
« Reply #254 on: November 07, 2018, 08:58:54 AM »

Would Bairstow have made that stumping happen?
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