Topic: Sky Sports Cricket (Read 12334 times)

SLA · « **Reply #45 on:** October 31, 2018, 01:37:15 PM »

Quote from: Kez on October 30, 2018, 10:02:57 PM

Realistically how many people do you think are there for a sky Broadcast, county or International.
It�s a complete oversimplification to think even a 10 man crew could produce something worthy of being shown on air.

Sky currently prioritise vastly overproducing their broadcasts to produce slick-looking graphics over providing a breadth of daily cricket content. That's a decision they make, but its not a decision that I, as a subscriber, agree with.

It would not affect my viewing enjoyment one iota if they halved the number of commentators, analysts, camera men, blimp operators, graphics generators, stats reseachers, live pitchside reporters at the test match. All of that stuff is peripheral to the cricket action and a complete waste of money. As long as I have a reasonable view of the pitch from behind the umpire's head and can hear a commentator telling me the score, everything else is unnecessary.

What DOES affect my viewing enjoyment is when they don't show live cricket, or even highlights of cricket, but instead show a repeat of an old documentary. I'd happily go back to the crappy production standards of the mid-90s if it meant I actually got to watch some cricket most nights!

I AM PAYING for this service, I have every right to tell them that they're misusing MY money - and judging from this thread, most other subscribers agree with me.

jamesisapayne · « **Reply #46 on:** October 31, 2018, 01:58:31 PM »

I'm totally for all of the womens cricket they show on Sky and I'm a bit shocked at some people's attitudes on here towards it. I have 2 young daughters that find it much more appealing and one of them just 'might' have the cricket bug through watching it - surely that can only be a good thing.

Also, I totally agree with @Gurujames that the standards of some women's games, whilst not as powerful or technically as proficient as the mens are either way more entertaining, or more relatable as it's closer to the standard I play.

The thing I don't like about it is the lack of live cricket, ether international or county championship, it just seems to be an ever decreasing part of their output and they're pushing rerun after rerun.

six and out · « **Reply #47 on:** October 31, 2018, 04:26:14 PM »

Whenever this topic comes up, it makes me so cross it's actually quite crazy really!

You really do not realise how lucky you are, what Sky has done for cricket coverage is ridiculous, access to an enormous amount of cricket - England's overseas games, games of other countries (eg. SA vs AUS), Women's Cricket, ICC tournaments, T20 tournaments. Then there's the Masterclasses and documentaries etc.... on top. Yes they maybe re-run a number of times but there isn't live cricket 24/7 that they have rights to - simple as that.

I maybe getting on a bit but to have the ability to watch the above is amazing compared to when i was growing up, to turn on a channel and see some form of cricket (no matter what it is) is quite frankly brilliant - i can show my son the game i love anytime i like!! my father couldn't do that for me when i was growing up.

Yes Sky's rates are high i agree, but so are the rights prices the Boards are charging.

And if you don't want to pay it........ you don't have to!

SLA · « **Reply #48 on:** October 31, 2018, 06:02:40 PM »

Quote from: six and out on October 31, 2018, 04:26:14 PM

Whenever this topic comes up, it makes me so cross it's actually quite crazy really!

You really do not realise how lucky you are, what Sky has done for cricket coverage is ridiculous, access to an enormous amount of cricket - England's overseas games, games of other countries (eg. SA vs AUS), Women's Cricket, ICC tournaments, T20 tournaments. Then there's the Masterclasses and documentaries etc.... on top. Yes they maybe re-run a number of times but there isn't live cricket 24/7 that they have rights to - simple as that.

I maybe getting on a bit but to have the ability to watch the above is amazing compared to when i was growing up, to turn on a channel and see some form of cricket (no matter what it is) is quite frankly brilliant - i can show my son the game i love anytime i like!! my father couldn't do that for me when i was growing up.

Yes Sky's rates are high i agree, but so are the rights prices the Boards are charging.

And if you don't want to pay it........ you don't have to!

Parochial, short sighted and naive. Compared to almost every other sport in the world, sky's coverage of cricket is (No Swearing Please) (No Swearing Please). Utterly abysmal. An embarrassment. A disgrace.
At a time when almost every other sport is becoming more accessible, with wall to wall coverage of every possible game for bargain prices, cricket coverage has gone backwards.

I live in the UK, and can readily access sports from all over the world for pennies, but I can't watch professional cricket being played down the road. This is supposed to be our national summer sport and there's an effective blackout on coverage. It's a national scandal.

A total, total disgrace. You need to wake up.

ppccopener · « **Reply #49 on:** October 31, 2018, 06:32:29 PM »

one thing im not sure if anyone else remembers being touted by the ECB 3 years was cricket on subscription TV was being 'looked at' to 'redress the balance'

absolutely nothing happened, it may be the way of the world now but the horse has been flogged to death.

personally I find BBC text and coverage of test matches perfectly fine...but then I grew up with it.

There's nothing outstanding about Sky's coverage of test cricket, the County Chairman love the hand outs from the ECB from TV rights, meanwhile the amateur game is dying.

There's really nothing to be cap in hand thankful for.

SLA · « **Reply #50 on:** October 31, 2018, 07:00:09 PM »

Quote from: DorsetDan on October 31, 2018, 06:23:05 PM

It is almost as though cricket is stuck in the dark ages. Who'd have thought. No broadcaster is a charity. Cricket is on a level with athletics and snooker for national interest and if someone was whinging about needing wall to wall local snooker 24/7 you'd think they were nuts. Cricket has to be worth more and sell itself better, and the increase in broadcasters dilutes things for all sports besides football

Despite the ongoing effort of the ecb and sky to eliminate any interest in cricket, its still significantly more popular than snooker.

You don't seem to understand the direction of causality here. Cricket is unpopular because of sky's poor coverage, sky's coverage isn't poor because cricket is unpopular

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #51 on:** October 31, 2018, 07:35:51 PM »

The games that are covered a great. Do we need that level at CC games.. no

Do I enjoy women�s cricket.. to a degree yes as it is like watching our games in terms of quality/pace etc. However, it isn�t that good really and certainly not worth sacrificing county champ games for if I personally had to choose.

Sky has pumped money in but that just shows the ECB put money ahead of the game. Amateur cricket is dying and few women�s games or funding disabled teams isn�t going to help. Women�s game is growing now but over time it�ll collapse as well as I can only assume this is the same initial growth as men�s cricket will have had.

I would be interested in the costs for 2/4 cameras and then sync the local radio coverage (don�t need a presenter etc). Those cameras could be static so you don�t need to make it fancy for live streaming intially. Grow the �brand� and then it might grow the game and so attract sponsors which fund better coverage.

Chicken and egg but also putting the money into what matters .. that�s not wages btw

Kez · « **Reply #52 on:** October 31, 2018, 09:38:41 PM »

I totally agree that cricket should be shown on FTA TV! That is the sports current biggest hurdle in engaging and maintaining an audience.

However the quality of the broadcast provided by sky is actually one of the best in the world but it is a premium production. Some of the broadcaster from around the cricket globe really do not stack up in terms of the product provided.

stevat · « **Reply #53 on:** October 31, 2018, 10:18:02 PM »

Quote from: Kez on October 31, 2018, 09:38:41 PM

I totally agree that cricket should be shown on FTA TV! That is the sports current biggest hurdle in engaging and maintaining an audience.

However the quality of the broadcast provided by sky is actually one of the best in the world but it is a premium production. Some of the broadcaster from around the cricket globe really do not stack up in terms of the product provided.

I've no issue with paying for a dedicated cricket channel should that channel give me access to myriad Test series and more from around the globe. Completely agree with you on FTA though - at the very least all England Test Series should be on FTA TV, and ideally all England games, and ideally the entire World Cup. Too much to ask?

SD · « **Reply #54 on:** November 01, 2018, 12:37:42 AM »

Quote from: six and out on October 31, 2018, 04:26:14 PM

Whenever this topic comes up, it makes me so cross it's actually quite crazy really!

You really do not realise how lucky you are, what Sky has done for cricket coverage is ridiculous, access to an enormous amount of cricket - England's overseas games, games of other countries (eg. SA vs AUS), Women's Cricket, ICC tournaments, T20 tournaments. Then there's the Masterclasses and documentaries etc.... on top. Yes they maybe re-run a number of times but there isn't live cricket 24/7 that they have rights to - simple as that.

I maybe getting on a bit but to have the ability to watch the above is amazing compared to when i was growing up, to turn on a channel and see some form of cricket (no matter what it is) is quite frankly brilliant - i can show my son the game i love anytime i like!! my father couldn't do that for me when i was growing up.

Yes Sky's rates are high i agree, but so are the rights prices the Boards are charging.

And if you don't want to pay it........ you don't have to!

Agreed! I grew up having to listen to England's overseas tours on the radio. I have never had access to as much televised cricket as I do at the moment, and in many respects, I wonder how small the viewing audiences are for some of it. Watching earlier in the year the Caribbean T20 competition, late at night in England and with a fairly modest collection of overseas players (star billing being given to one of our old overseas pros, Sohail Tanvir, who didn't set league cricket alight) I did wonder how many people would be tuning in to watch it.

Personally, I can't say that the lack of coverage of the County Championship is impacting on young kids taking up cricket. The biggest impact has to be the lack of internationals on FTA, but then would the BBC or C4 be able to dedicate as much airspace to the domestic T20 comps as Sky does? The interest of younger supporters is in the shortest form of the game. Counties are getting full houses for T20 fixtures but barely need to open the stands when the CC is being played. As hard is it is to admit for those of us who value the CC, there just isn't much of an audience for it so Sky as a commercial broadcaster as going to take their cameras to T20 games because people are likely to watch it.

mohawks94 · « **Reply #55 on:** November 01, 2018, 01:32:10 AM »

Quote from: LateBloomer on October 31, 2018, 12:44:53 PM

Agree with the 2 views above me. Fact of the matter is womens cricket participation is expanding, has been for a while and shows no sign of slowing. Can we say the same about the mens game?

I also think that most on here could take alot from watching the womens game as its closer to the level we play. With their physical attributes being less than their male counterparts the womens game on the whole relies on intelligence, technique and innovation (natmeg anyone?).

Dont think womens cricket will be getting cancelled by Sky anytime soon - sorry!

I feel I've learnt a lot about my own game from working with the girls, because it makes me think.

I agree with @Gurujames that the fielding can be a pretty low level at times, because generally the gulf in standard is bigger between the top players in a team who've been playing for years and those who've only taken up cricket at uni (for example) as its the first time they've had the exposure to women's cricket. Greater participation, and greater coverage, can only help level the playing field and lead to more, and more competitive teams.

edge · « **Reply #56 on:** November 01, 2018, 06:20:10 AM »

Quote from: ppccopener on October 31, 2018, 06:32:29 PM

There's nothing outstanding about Sky's coverage of test cricket

Really? Watch a few more non-England tests, Sky do a properly fantastic job of test coverage.

I don't really blame Sky for not broadcasting the CC, but the online streaming figures that grow and grow are proving them wrong to some extent. Long been of the opinion that cricket is great and you just need to make it an attractive package to watch - county champs tickets should be way cheaper and the attendance would grow massively, which would have the knock on effect of making it more attractive to broadcast. Preaching to the converted stuff though as I'm not sure getting more county stuff on Sky will make any difference to participation.

Women's cricket is a bit crap, but you'd think more exposure will lead to it improving.

SLA · « **Reply #57 on:** November 01, 2018, 08:55:51 AM »

Quote from: SD on November 01, 2018, 12:37:42 AM

Agreed! I grew up having to listen to England's overseas tours on the radio. I have never had access to as much televised cricket as I do at the moment, and in many respects, I wonder how small the viewing audiences are for some of it. Watching earlier in the year the Caribbean T20 competition, late at night in England and with a fairly modest collection of overseas players (star billing being given to one of our old overseas pros, Sohail Tanvir, who didn't set league cricket alight) I did wonder how many people would be tuning in to watch it.

Personally, I can't say that the lack of coverage of the County Championship is impacting on young kids taking up cricket. The biggest impact has to be the lack of internationals on FTA, but then would the BBC or C4 be able to dedicate as much airspace to the domestic T20 comps as Sky does? The interest of younger supporters is in the shortest form of the game. Counties are getting full houses for T20 fixtures but barely need to open the stands when the CC is being played. As hard is it is to admit for those of us who value the CC, there just isn't much of an audience for it so Sky as a commercial broadcaster as going to take their cameras to T20 games because people are likely to watch it.

There is no evidence whatsoever that kids intrinsically prefer shorter formats. That certainly wasn't the case pre 2005, I see no reason why it would be the case today.

stevat · « **Reply #58 on:** November 01, 2018, 10:58:58 AM »

There is a generational shift in terms of patience though - now you can carry a small machine the size of a wallet in your pocket with which you can contact virtually any other person you know at any time and almost instantly find the answer to almost any question. The information we have at our fingertips is amazing, absolutely staggering, and a wonderful thing, but it is also responsible for expectations changing in terms of how long we wait for what we want.

I do think kids can love the CC games, and in the summer holidays I plan on taking my son, who will be 7 then, to watch a few games, but I do think the counties could do more to keep young families in the grounds. Ticket prices are a factor, but the stadia are also a little restrictive. I've watched games in Australia, and at their games they have other forms of entertainment, where kids can test their batting and bowling skills etc so that parents can enjoy an hour of the game, then have a wander, then take in some more, then grab some lunch and a beer, then carry on again. Essentially, the day is more interactive than it is here.

I'd like national games to be on FTA TV in their respective countries, then all Sky or whomever need to do is pay for those rights, and either add some commentary, or use the local in the case of South Africa, Australia and New Zealand.

SLA · « **Reply #59 on:** November 01, 2018, 02:09:15 PM »

Quote from: stevat on November 01, 2018, 10:58:58 AM

There is a generational shift in terms of patience though - now you can carry a small machine the size of a wallet in your pocket with which you can contact virtually any other person you know at any time and almost instantly find the answer to almost any question. The information we have at our fingertips is amazing, absolutely staggering, and a wonderful thing, but it is also responsible for expectations changing in terms of how long we wait for what we want.

I do think kids can love the CC games, and in the summer holidays I plan on taking my son, who will be 7 then, to watch a few games, but I do think the counties could do more to keep young families in the grounds. Ticket prices are a factor, but the stadia are also a little restrictive. I've watched games in Australia, and at their games they have other forms of entertainment, where kids can test their batting and bowling skills etc so that parents can enjoy an hour of the game, then have a wander, then take in some more, then grab some lunch and a beer, then carry on again. Essentially, the day is more interactive than it is here.

I'd like national games to be on FTA TV in their respective countries, then all Sky or whomever need to do is pay for those rights, and either add some commentary, or use the local in the case of South Africa, Australia and New Zealand.

That in itself is a myth. Thousands of psych studies have looked at this, and kids today are no different from kids 30 years ago.

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