Topic: Australia vs India (Read 71332 times)

mo_town · « **Reply #165 on:** December 17, 2018, 05:36:05 PM »

This has been India's worry this entire year. Not having a near perfect XI in the test series in SA, Eng and now Aus. How do you expect to win Tests when you dont even have your openers sorted in these conditions?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #166 on:** December 17, 2018, 05:58:04 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on December 17, 2018, 02:07:41 PM

I struggled to understand Rahane's approach today. It wasnt like India was chasing 150 odd runs. Agreed that India have a really long tail but all it needs really is 1 good partnership.

And one overly aggressive shot or two and Aus are into that tail with a looooong time to go. It�s a test match, loads of time to accumulate slowly. Doesn�t have to go at 4+ an over. Grind them down and the runs will flow

HellomynameisJ · « **Reply #167 on:** December 17, 2018, 06:13:43 PM »

Quote from: csnew on December 17, 2018, 03:19:08 PM

Agree - no abuse whatsoever. No issues with it. Amusing seeing the Aussies crying wolf about it all.

Thought Kohli should�ve turned around and asked Paine the last time he scored a 100. Surprised Kohli even bothers with him. Only 1 100 in first class cricket.

Everything I've seen from the Aussie players has been them saying that everything on the field has been ok, the only thing that has looked bad was kohli deliberately standing in a place that he really had no reason to be in so that he would make contact with Paine.

And was Paine ever really picked to make hundreds?, I was under the assumption that he was picked because he was the best gloveman in Australia, a gritty lower order batsman and a leader of men. I'm sure Virat will have time talk about his pretty hundred when they are debriefing over a probable loss tomorrow. Paine's comment was pretty fair in my opinion, if you act like a peanut on the field, people will just assume that you're a peanut all of the time, ask David Warner.

six and out · « **Reply #168 on:** December 17, 2018, 07:18:28 PM »

Its going to be 1-1 very soon and India have got big problems at the top of the order, Rahul and Vijay can't buy a run, and now Prithvi Shaw is ruled out for the whole series. He is being replaced in the squad by Mayank Agarwal.

Manormanic · « **Reply #169 on:** December 17, 2018, 08:09:42 PM »

Quote from: SLA on December 17, 2018, 12:58:15 PM

Actually, their stats are pretty similar, despite Lyon playing half his game in Aus, which is supposedly "the off-spinners graveyard". Personally I think Lyon is the more talented and flexible bowler. Swann quite often cleaned up the tail after Anderson and Broad had knocked over the top order.

We're going to have to agree to disagree here I think; my view is, Swann ran through good sides, Lyon does not. Swann was influential in a series win in India and an away Ashes victory - things Lyon is only dreaming of. Swann was a match winner. And, crucially, Lyon only matured into the idea of a test bowler once he had the biggest, nastiest pace attack ahead of him (Mitch 1, Mitch 2, Hazlewood, Cummins etc)...

Thats not to decry Lyon's improvement, or his brilliance as a man to tie up an end. But in English terms, he is more a Giles or Leach than a Swann.

Manormanic · « **Reply #170 on:** December 17, 2018, 08:11:11 PM »

Kohli to Payne; wow, Mr Paine, your tounge is as abrasive as...sandpaper.

Or:

Is that a wad of secret sandpaper down your pants or are you just pleased to sledge me?

mad_abt_cricket · « **Reply #171 on:** December 18, 2018, 10:00:55 AM »

Once again poor selection of playing XI by Kohli. Probably way over confident to blow away Australia with the pace. It was evident from the press conference before the Perth test. Eventually that over confidence showed in the first session when they allowed Australian openers to forge a 100 run partnership. While Kohli is ultra aggressive while selecting his playing 11, his field settings are defensive most of the times. So many catches went through the slip and gully cordon but he persisted with a strange gap between the slips and the gully. Also despite the pace of the wicket it was strange to see a backward point instead of a wide third-man where so many boundaries went of edges and slashes even could have been caught. Bowlers bowled slightly short in both the innings in hope to get the uneven bounce into play ( just like they exploited in Johannesburg). This pitch probably demanded much fuller lengths aiming at the stumps. Most of the Australian batsmen, just hanged back and left the balls. There were plenty of ooh and aahs and was pretty good viewing though such balls didn't produced wickets.
Considering how Rahul is short of confidence, India should actually consider Pujara as an opener with Vijay and promote Vihari as one down. Pujara is virtually opening in 2018 as the openers are getting out cheaply. Vihari looked solid and number 3 position is not out of place for him as he does play at number 3 for his state. It would be unfair on someone like Mayank to come and perform straight away in Australian conditions.

I would go for the following combination for Melbourne:
1. Vijay
2. Pujara
3. Vihari
4. Kohli
5. Rahane
6. Rohit/Pandya
7. Pant
8. Ashwin/Jadeja
9. Ishant
10. Shami
11. Bhumrah

This combination gives batting depth until 8 and also provide bowling options ( fast and spin ), Ashwin/ Jadeja with Vihari.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #172 on:** December 18, 2018, 10:41:45 AM »

You've got to wonder how Paine's career would've panned had he not got cleaned up by Dirk Nannes back in 2010. Paine seems a natural as captain, more in the Border style. Considering he and Smith debuted together, Paine should've had 50-60 caps but for the 7 finger surgeries. Australia selected a lot of mediocre glovemen Paine's time in the wilderness but Paine's showing that a class gloveman is vital. I liked Paine's exchange with Kohli, nothing personal pretty lighthearted. There's a bell*** currently suspended that probably would've been dishing out f bombs had he been playing. Paine wasn't intimidated by Kohli.

And this talk about Paine's lack of 100s, the great Ian Healy scored 3 Test hundreds but no other fc hundreds. So I don't understand why Paine's copping it

lethalshrapnel · « **Reply #173 on:** December 18, 2018, 01:21:33 PM »

My team -

1. Parthiv
2. Mayank
3. Pujara
4. Kohli
5. Rahane
6. Vihari
7. Jadeja/Ashwin
8. Bhuvi
9. Ishant
10. Shami
11. Bhumrah

Parthiv opening gives India both an extra batsman and an extra bowler, which they might well need if the MCG is as flat as it has been recently. Bhuvi over Hardik to cause some new ball damage, which is where India lost the Perth test in my opinion.

shadowlight · « **Reply #174 on:** December 18, 2018, 04:34:20 PM »

Congratulation to Australia. Indian's were over confident selecting 4 seamers.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #175 on:** December 18, 2018, 08:17:59 PM »

Quote from: lethalshrapnel on December 18, 2018, 01:21:33 PM

My team -

1. Parthiv
2. Mayank
3. Pujara
4. Kohli
5. Rahane
6. Vihari
7. Jadeja/Ashwin
8. Bhuvi
9. Ishant
10. Shami
11. Bhumrah

Parthiv opening gives India both an extra batsman and an extra bowler, which they might well need if the MCG is as flat as it has been recently. Bhuvi over Hardik to cause some new ball damage, which is where India lost the Perth test in my opinion.

What you been drinking? Parthiv Patel�s glove work in more Kamran Akmal than Saha. Throwing into the reckoning that Pant has scored 100, 90 and 90 just prior to this tour. Also Pant aged 21 is the future and Patel aged 35 has flopped many times before.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #176 on:** December 18, 2018, 08:19:24 PM »

Quote from: shadowlight on December 18, 2018, 04:34:20 PM

Congratulation to Australia. Indian's were over confident selecting 4 seamers.

Good old Virat adamant it was the correct team composition

csnew · « **Reply #177 on:** December 18, 2018, 08:33:30 PM »

M. marsh could be in contention for a recall. Handsome looks completely shot with that technique. Warne tipping into him

lethalshrapnel · « **Reply #178 on:** December 19, 2018, 01:16:19 PM »

Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on December 18, 2018, 08:17:59 PM

What you been drinking? Parthiv Patel�s glove work in more Kamran Akmal than Saha. Throwing into the reckoning that Pant has scored 100, 90 and 90 just prior to this tour. Also Pant aged 21 is the future and Patel aged 35 has flopped many times before.

Well, its a stop gap solution for sure but let me state my case -

Pant's keeping is very mediocre as well and he hasn't really looked like scoring any runs. I don't think he has the technique to withstand the Aussie bowling attack in these conditions. Every time he has scored runs its been on very flat batting tracks. I also don't see him succeeding in New Zealand or South Africa. Not sure he is the future basically. And Parthiv at least will put a price on his wicket. He might not score hundreds but he has repeatedly shown that he is good for 30 to 60 runs. Vijay and Rahul are walking wickets right now.

And playing Parthiv basically gives India the option of either adding an extra batsman down the order for insurance or playing that extra bowler if the pitch is flat or Hardik Pandya without sacrificing Hanuma Vihari who I believe India should stick with and not discard after just one game.

mo_town · « **Reply #179 on:** December 19, 2018, 01:38:56 PM »

It will be,

1. Vihari
2. Mayank
3. Pujara
4. Kohli
5. Rahane
6. Pant
7. Pandya
8. Jadeja
9. Ishant
10. Shami
11. Bumrah

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