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Re: ICC World Cup 2019
« Reply #1260 on: July 10, 2019, 02:38:44 PM »
Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on July 10, 2019, 02:15:13 PM
My comment stands. They are a b grade side. One lucky day out doesn't change anything

Lucky? Did you watch it.  They were excellent today.

For a "b grade side" they did themselves proud.

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« Reply #1261 on: July 10, 2019, 02:40:51 PM »
Quote from: csnew on July 10, 2019, 09:05:04 AM
Would try stubhub, fair few going at less than face value

I suspect there will be a few tickets available for the final now!
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« Reply #1262 on: July 10, 2019, 02:46:20 PM »
Quote from: brokenbat on July 10, 2019, 02:16:57 PM
As much as I enjoyed NZ winning, I think people are being unfair to Dhoni. He wanted to take the game till the end and backed himself to smash 15 an over in the last two. Were it not for guptills insane runout, msd might have pulled it off.

It was Jadeja playing out of his skin that took the game deep, and who might have taken it deeper if he wasn't playing catch up for Dhoni. Sure MS could have won it with an over or two of high risk cricket, but had he played smart cricket and turned the strike over, he and Jadeja would have been needing 5 or 6 an over instead of 12+ towards the end
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« Reply #1263 on: July 10, 2019, 03:02:31 PM »
Was a good game. India haven’t been that impressive this tournament.

Kohli wasn’t a world beater.
Rahul didn’t show up.
Pant got chucked in deep end despite not being in original squad.
jadeja should have played every game.
Dhoni shouldn’t have been near the side. Probably cost them games.

Bumrah and rohit were excellent though.
But two guys can’t win a world cup.

Well played NZ though.
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« Reply #1264 on: July 10, 2019, 03:09:27 PM »
Quote from: csnew on July 10, 2019, 02:19:47 PM
No one gave NZ a chance coming into the semi's. What a win to send them through to the semi's, their bowling in the first 15 was suburb.

Guptill saving his best for the final now

Guptils been shocking.

Just tell Munro to tee off from ball one and at worst you’d have the same start.
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« Reply #1265 on: July 10, 2019, 03:15:10 PM »
Quote from: smilley792 on July 10, 2019, 03:09:27 PM
Guptils been shocking.

Just tell Munro to tee off from ball one and at worst you’d have the same start.

Rather have southee open than either of them

Any one else notice chalal using a Laver
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« Reply #1266 on: July 10, 2019, 03:18:07 PM »
Quote from: brokenbat on July 10, 2019, 02:16:57 PM
As much as I enjoyed NZ winning, I think people are being unfair to Dhoni. He wanted to take the game till the end and backed himself to smash 15 an over in the last two. Were it not for guptills insane runout, msd might have pulled it off.

Your point is absolutely valid.
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« Reply #1267 on: July 10, 2019, 03:34:01 PM »
Dhoni these days is not as destructive, he was letting hittable balls go by in this innings. he takes the game really deep like a high stakes gambler.

with 2 bowlers behind jadeja the question will be why didn't he go earlier when jadeja was pumping it into the stands and nearly won the game.

So.....its a judgement call. Knowing Indian fans as I do(my best mate is Indian and we just talk or watch cricket) they will think he got it wrong and is now too old..

personally im not sure NZ are getting enough cresdit, they are a tough side to beat with decent bowlers

I wonder now comments about Taylors batting(slowly) yesterday are being shown to be stupid. He read the pitch and though 240/ 250 good enough on that wicket.
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« Reply #1268 on: July 10, 2019, 04:12:30 PM »


I wonder now comments about Taylors batting(slowly) yesterday are being shown to be stupid. He read the pitch and though 240/ 250 good enough on that wicket.
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing. He still batted poorly.
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« Reply #1269 on: July 10, 2019, 04:13:39 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on July 10, 2019, 03:34:01 PM
personally im not sure NZ are getting enough cresdit, they are a tough side to beat with decent bowlers

NZ are also very lucky! Somehow stars aligned for them to have the chances and conditions that favored them but I guess, that's cricket. :)
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« Reply #1270 on: July 10, 2019, 04:51:06 PM »
Quote from: brokenbat on July 10, 2019, 02:16:57 PM
As much as I enjoyed NZ winning, I think people are being unfair to Dhoni. He wanted to take the game till the end and backed himself to smash 15 an over in the last two. Were it not for guptills insane runout, msd might have pulled it off.

Why wait until the last two overs?  If he had rotated the strike better India would not have to rely on the smashing in the last two overs.  I am not blaming him for the loss, but personally India needed to be taken down a notch or two.  They are way to cocky and dependent on top 3 to bail them out.
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« Reply #1271 on: July 10, 2019, 05:52:02 PM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on July 10, 2019, 04:13:39 PM
NZ are also very lucky! Somehow stars aligned for them to have the chances and conditions that favored them but I guess, that's cricket. :)

Conditions do play a part especially in England. Leading up to the semi final they didn’t play well and you could well say Pakistan were a better bet.
I see what you mean if you are referring to that but not sure they are particularly lucky.
Over the years NZ have been more than the sum of their parts if you get what I mean.
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« Reply #1272 on: July 10, 2019, 06:06:11 PM »
You gotta respect the game... wonder how much it hurt India not going tooth and nail for a win vs England- giving up relatively early meant that their Lower middle order was never really tested... had they fought till the end vs Eng, they might have emerged tougher and better able to handle today’s pressure.
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« Reply #1273 on: July 10, 2019, 06:29:16 PM »
My Personal opinion on today's game...NZ came in this tournament with great luck. Last match with India got rained off, we could argue NZ could have won that or maybe India but we will never know. That one point saved NZ a place in semis. Pakistan could have got few more points if their matches were not rained off and made it to semis even with their current points.
Yesterday NZ was under pressure and rain saved them again. This morning they started taking single double shifting the momentum. In this weather NZ had perfect conditions to bowl at India that they did. India batting in afternoon would have been different story.

Now I am backing NZ to lift the cup as they got nothing to lose.
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Re: ICC World Cup 2019
« Reply #1274 on: July 10, 2019, 07:33:36 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on July 10, 2019, 05:52:02 PM
Conditions do play a part especially in England. Leading up to the semi final they didn’t play well and you could well say Pakistan were a better bet.
I see what you mean if you are referring to that but not sure they are particularly lucky.
Over the years NZ have been more than the sum of their parts if you get what I mean.

What I meant by my comment is that the change in weather, a break from the game, and continuation the next day gave NZ a second chance to re-asses the game and execute better. For a side to chase (in a WC playoffs) is tough. But, it becomes tougher when all your mental preparation and focus is put to rest (since you are batting the following day rain or shine) and then re-start again the next day, re-focus, get your emotional/adrenaline pitch right and ready.
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