Topic: England tour of West Indies (Read 147709 times)

Buzz · « **Reply #180 on:** January 23, 2019, 10:49:32 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on January 23, 2019, 09:35:04 PM

Talk Sport is dreadful.

The local commentary has Johnny Barron and Vic Marks...

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LateBloomer · « **Reply #181 on:** January 23, 2019, 11:32:20 PM »

I havent seen any of the game, how did the ball behave?

SD · « **Reply #182 on:** January 23, 2019, 11:57:42 PM »

I guess England would have to concede that they got selection wrong picking Curran over Broad. For me it was a straight choice between Rashid and Curran for the final place in the side and based on how dry the surface looks, I would have picked the leggie. Luckily the excellence of Jimmy, first in drying the runs up and building pressure when the batting side were on top , and then running through then when the break through came has avoided the decision looking too costly

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #183 on:** January 24, 2019, 08:10:20 AM »

Driving all day yesterday, had the misfortune to be listening to talksport's coverage for the first time.

I really noticed the lack of insight. They loved telling tales of tours past (Gough), interesting at times, but not at the expense of telling the listener what's going on right now. And on three occasions when a wicket fell, they were quick to celebrate and shout without telling me who'd caught the ball, rather giving a rolling count of the number of wickets Jimmy and Broad have taken (its 1002. We had updates from 999...). i didn't know the catchers even well into the next over. It made me realise how polished and professional and just how good at their jobs the TMS crew are.

For what its worth I'd have picked Broad over Curran. The batting depth is still deep withoit Curran and I know who I'd rather have been facing if I were the Windies top order

tate035 · « **Reply #184 on:** January 24, 2019, 09:10:46 AM »

Quote from: LateBloomer on January 23, 2019, 10:04:50 PM

How very 1950s of you! Seen but not heard.

I have enjoyed the commentary of Isa Guha recently, she knows her stuff and stands out in the Australian commentary teams head and shoulders above the rest in knowledge and delivery

Really? Not sure who the Australian commentators where but Ricky Ponting and Greg Blewitt have been very insightful. Having not listened to every match over the last 6 months it would be unfair of me to comment on everyone but I will agree that Ebony appears to be more insightful than other female commentators that I have heard, however IMO 😝 I would rather listen to people like Botham, Lloydd, Hussein, Holding, Ponting, Prior etc All players who have played at the highest level and not a female who hasn�t played the game at a good standard. I would still have that opinion even if they asked the 2nd team captain from Lancashire to give commentary on test matches.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #185 on:** January 24, 2019, 09:24:45 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on January 23, 2019, 09:59:27 PM

Talk of dropping Foakes is too ridiculous for words.

I would have picked Broad and Leach over Curran and Rashid. But I wasn't alarmed that they didn't.

It isn't really although Foakes is the best gloveman in this Englad team your a batsman first To retain his place he has to keep scoring runs or become a top six batter.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #186 on:** January 24, 2019, 09:28:37 AM »

Quote from: LateBloomer on January 23, 2019, 11:32:20 PM

I havent seen any of the game, how did the ball behave?

Pretty much up and down no big swing or movement of the pitch.

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #187 on:** January 24, 2019, 09:30:21 AM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on January 24, 2019, 09:24:45 AM

It isn't really although Foakes is the best gloveman in this Englad team your a batsman first To retain his place he has to keep scoring runs or become a top six batter.

he was one of England best batsman in Sri Lanka, he's done nothing but excelled since he came into the side,

(yes this is an exaggeration) dropping foakes now would be akin to dropping cook after the 2010/11 ashes, its beyond ridiculous to talk of dropping our best gloveman and one of the better batters in the side!

sod the balance of the side you pick on merit, we need to forget this 3 keepers b****cks and treat buttler and bairstow as batsmen, are there better batsmen as them on county cricket at the moment in that position (or at all), no.

i think we have picked the correct side (from the squad given) except one change (broad for rashid)

and we may not agree with the side we picked but its about time we all quit moaning and supported the lads! sometimes its like we dont actually want england to do well! jeeze!

edge · « **Reply #188 on:** January 24, 2019, 09:35:20 AM »

Quote from: tate035 on January 24, 2019, 09:10:46 AM

Really? Not sure who the Australian commentators where but Ricky Ponting and Greg Blewitt have been very insightful. Having not listened to every match over the last 6 months it would be unfair of me to comment on everyone but I will agree that Ebony appears to be more insightful than other female commentators that I have heard, however IMO 😝 I would rather listen to people like Botham, Lloydd, Hussein, Holding, Ponting, Prior etc All players who have played at the highest level and not a female who hasn�t played the game at a good standard. I would still have that opinion even if they asked the 2nd team captain from Lancashire to give commentary on test matches.

I'd rather have people who are good commentators, does it matter what level they've played? Prior was a really good cricketer but that doesn't stop him being intensely dull...
Talksport was a nice change from TMS at the start of the SL series but after the novelty wore off it's a bit boring - both could learn from each other.

Thank goodness for Stokes and Jimmy, not sure the balance of our attack is quite right here. West Indies must be kicking themselves a little, if one bloke had gone on to a ton it would have been a great day for them.

I know this England setup likes blurring roles a bit, but to describe a bloke batting 8 as 'a batsman first' is a bit much even for them...

goodarmcindy · « **Reply #189 on:** January 24, 2019, 09:36:45 AM »

Quote from: CricketXI on January 23, 2019, 09:10:17 PM

scoring 50ies and getting out just after on home grounds/Conditions is not acceptable at International level.
Its really hard to make such players sit out even when team management knows that these players are not going to impact the final result.
50ies should be converted to 100s at international level.

I agree. Joe Root really has to be dropped...

mo_town · « **Reply #190 on:** January 24, 2019, 09:58:33 AM »

England were lucky to get those wickets with the second new ball. It wasnt looking good for them till then. This definitely is not the best bowling line up.

jonny77 · « **Reply #191 on:** January 24, 2019, 10:13:52 AM »

Quote from: mo_town on January 24, 2019, 09:58:33 AM

England were lucky to get those wickets with the second new ball. It wasnt looking good for them till then. This definitely is not the best bowling line up.

How do you feel they were lucky? Was it not due to good bowling? Mainly a good spell from Jimmy from what I've seen, so not sure how much luck was involved.

mo_town · « **Reply #192 on:** January 24, 2019, 11:03:25 AM »

Quote from: jonny77 on January 24, 2019, 10:13:52 AM

How do you feel they were lucky? Was it not due to good bowling? Mainly a good spell from Jimmy from what I've seen, so not sure how much luck was involved.

I would put those down to poor batting. Also, clearly you got your bowling options wrong when the captain has to bowl himself for a few overs. Leach would have been a better option in place of Rashid. Also, given the long batting lineup, Broad should have been preferred instead of Curran. Curran has played a few good innings but I dont feel his bowling is good enough for him to be picked solely as a bowler in the test team.

jonny77 · « **Reply #193 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:35:24 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on January 24, 2019, 11:03:25 AM

I would put those down to poor batting. Also, clearly you got your bowling options wrong when the captain has to bowl himself for a few overs. Leach would have been a better option in place of Rashid. Also, given the long batting lineup, Broad should have been preferred instead of Curran. Curran has played a few good innings but I dont feel his bowling is good enough for him to be picked solely as a bowler in the test team.

Wasn't arguing with the selection. Think I'd have played Broad instead of Rashid tbh as I don't think we really need two spinners (I like Rashid tho). Although still can't agree with your other point, bad batting or not that doesn't mean England were 'lucky. Wasn't like it we bagged wickets due to low bounce, bad umpiring decisions, deflected run outs etc, which would be down to luck. Still gotta put the ball in the right areas consistently.

ppccopener · « **Reply #194 on:** January 24, 2019, 01:02:15 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on January 24, 2019, 12:35:24 PM

Wasn't arguing with the selection. Think I'd have played Broad instead of Rashid tbh as I don't think we really need two spinners (I like Rashid tho). Although still can't agree with your other point, bad batting or not that doesn't mean England were 'lucky. Wasn't like it we bagged wickets due to low bounce, bad umpiring decisions, deflected run outs etc, which would be down to luck. Still gotta put the ball in the right areas consistently.

That's it - I'm off long term sick so I've watched all our bowling yesterday and Anderson is just a different class. The accuracy is his first spell gave them no loose balls to hit unlike Curran so there's no luck I could see. Stokes bowled well too and Rashid was good despite there not being much turn(yet)- it may turn later on for him.

With Anderson we have the best bowler in living memory, he is the best of his type going as far back as I can remember.

Second new ball did a bit and he was right there to make the most of it.

Not even thinking about when he hangs up his boots what will happen. We pretty much have the best bowlers in England picked and he is a class above the rest we have

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