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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #225 on: January 24, 2019, 05:42:59 PM »
Vintage Eng vs WI
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« Reply #226 on: January 24, 2019, 05:52:30 PM »
So the commentators go to their usual excuse - lack of warm up matches! Happens so often with English commentators

No international side gets as much pre tour prep as England. It’s not an excuse - no other side uses it
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« Reply #227 on: January 24, 2019, 06:04:02 PM »
Can't put this down to lack of prep.  Good toss to win on a deck deteriorating by the third session on day 1, but England have made a big selection blunder and also dropped the Windies top scorer when he had 3 and have a top 3 who can't play pace and expose the middle order to the new ball.

Given how quickly the game has progressed, there is the real.likelihood that England's 2 spinners won't get to bowl in day 4/5 conditions they were selected for
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« Reply #228 on: January 24, 2019, 06:23:17 PM »
Root’s been lucky to win 8 tosses in a row, the real test would come once he started losing a few like this test
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« Reply #229 on: January 24, 2019, 06:27:13 PM »
At least it wasn’t 51.......
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #230 on: January 24, 2019, 06:31:30 PM »
Haven’t seen a ball of this as I don’t have Sky but looks embarrassing, when are the selectors going to realise that Jennings isnt good enough for International cricket, Rory Burns doesn’t look much better either.
James Vince, or Joe Denley need to be brought in in my opinion

Bowling wise I don’t disagree totally with the Curran over Broad selection as I’m all for blooding the next and his start to Test cricket has been superb. Roll on Archer being available.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #231 on: January 24, 2019, 06:32:48 PM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on January 24, 2019, 06:27:13 PM
At least it wasn’t 51.......

Could be over by lunch tomorrow if they make us follow on although that’s not the done thing these days
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #232 on: January 24, 2019, 06:37:36 PM »
Exceptional test cricket so far from WI. Batted with purpose and application and have followed it up with genuine pace and aggression.

I’d rather England batted this way and bowled this way but still. Really good to see. Proper test cricket.

Englsnd.. well.. totally exposed with ball and with bat. These batsmen both aren’t good enough or are all rounders who shouldn’t be exposed to this or they’ll get cleaned up.  Ali... guys nothing but a 8+ so when peoooe talk of ‘pinch hitting’.. Jesus.. laughable

Anyway, genuinely enjoyed these two days more than any test I’ve seen for a long while. First time a team has actually applied themselves and bowled with pace and aggression
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #233 on: January 24, 2019, 06:39:12 PM »
Quote from: smilley792 on January 24, 2019, 05:37:18 PM
Kemar Roach with a five for.


Hes 3 cm shorter than Sam Curran, but yeah let’s concentrate on broads height being the issue......




Bored turns up once a year, should have been dropped a while ago. He isn’t the issue with our top order.

Chris has a point. Height isn’t he issue.. the fact curran is another bits and pieces player who bowls plod is the issue
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« Reply #234 on: January 24, 2019, 06:40:21 PM »
Pace like fire

Sorts people right out .. our guys showing they aren’t upto it.. medium plod hitters

Love watching raw pace
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #235 on: January 24, 2019, 06:42:25 PM »
Quote from: alexhilly1492 on January 24, 2019, 05:29:19 PM
Moeen Ali get in the bin!

That is embarrassing
Yet again Moeen gets out to a short ball
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #236 on: January 24, 2019, 06:50:41 PM »
People saying that selection was the issue Curran over Broad, it is it not worth considering that they both should have played and Rashid should have been left out.

The Windies obviously had local knowledge and went with 4 quicks.

That being said you can talk about selection till the cows come home but if you have 2 out of your top 3 who can't play quick bowling you are always struggling.

Jennings technique isn't great and Bairstow bowled by the ball coming back through him again!

There's only so many times the middle/lower order get you out of jail. Sooner or later it's a car crash.
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« Reply #237 on: January 24, 2019, 06:53:55 PM »
Yes spot on. We have been bailed out umpteen times by the middle order.

This was coming for a while. Extra pace usually finds you out as a batsman, and they bowled superb
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« Reply #238 on: January 24, 2019, 06:56:55 PM »
Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on January 24, 2019, 06:31:30 PM
Haven’t seen a ball of this as I don’t have Sky but looks embarrassing, when are the selectors going to realise that Jennings isnt good enough for International cricket, Rory Burns doesn’t look much better either.
James Vince, or Joe Denley need to be brought in in my opinion

Bowling wise I don’t disagree totally with the Curran over Broad selection as I’m all for blooding the next and his start to Test cricket has been superb. Roll on Archer being available.

Yep  with that stance /setup of Burns there not a lot in defence behind the ball not ideal for an opening bat against extra bounce and pace.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #239 on: January 24, 2019, 07:32:57 PM »
Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on January 24, 2019, 06:31:30 PM
Haven’t seen a ball of this as I don’t have Sky but looks embarrassing, when are the selectors going to realise that Jennings isnt good enough for International cricket, Rory Burns doesn’t look much better either.

To be fair to Jennings - he was the top scorer!!!!  And to be fair to Burns, he was one of three who have some mitigation (he played on, Bairstow had one bounce back off his elbow and Buttler got a ball that could have killed him)
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