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alexhilly1492

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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #570 on: February 01, 2019, 08:52:34 AM »
Quote from: Number4 on February 01, 2019, 08:17:08 AM
Not sure “biffing” on day 1 of a Test match was the way to go.

Ok so who are the CBF selectors axing for the next Test match?

at the moment id hope none, we're day one into a test match, and realistically theres not much in back up to replace with anyway,

the only way you could go is Woakes for Curran, leach for Ali and that's about it,

you're not gonna drop Denly after one test, burns deserves a run, bairstow has done nothing wrong, root is captain, buttler has been the best batsman since his recall, stokes is the best alrounder we've had for years, foakes is more than capable with the bat and the best keeper weve had for a long long time, broad and anderson are the best new ball partnership we've ever had with 1000+ wickets between them

that leaves ali and curran vunerable
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #571 on: February 01, 2019, 09:58:18 AM »
Although Curran the closest to getting a wicket so far (by pitching it up more?)
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #572 on: February 01, 2019, 10:27:07 AM »
Not sure England has the required resources in their team to take advantage of a pitch like this..not one bowler is capable of cranking it up and troubling the batsmen. Lets face it, this bowling line up is only good in conditions where there is enough lateral movement. They can only hope for the Windies to implode. Cant really blame the batsmen for the failures.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #573 on: February 01, 2019, 10:56:34 AM »
Buzz and Fattus have called it thou, we have to target the stumps more, we didn't really do that although they had some luck.

I know our bowlers don't like getting driven but we have to risk it to get wickets, there's enough movement in the track
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #574 on: February 01, 2019, 11:21:03 AM »
We really have to face facts that this attack is crying out for Archer... someone with the ability to either break your toes or knock your head off.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #575 on: February 01, 2019, 11:23:20 AM »
Quote from: six and out on February 01, 2019, 11:21:03 AM
We really have to face facts that this attack is crying out for Archer... someone with the ability to either break your toes or knock your head off.

The same Archer that went for 20 in one over in the BB yesterday?

He looks a great talent and is certainly quick enough but can he bowl 15-20 overs a day on the spot?
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #576 on: February 01, 2019, 11:43:33 AM »
Quote from: jamesisapayne on February 01, 2019, 11:23:20 AM
The same Archer that went for 20 in one over in the BB yesterday?

He looks a great talent and is certainly quick enough but can he bowl 15-20 overs a day on the spot?
Goes well enough for Sussex.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #577 on: February 01, 2019, 11:46:00 AM »
Quote from: jamesisapayne on February 01, 2019, 11:23:20 AM
The same Archer that went for 20 in one over in the BB yesterday?

He looks a great talent and is certainly quick enough but can he bowl 15-20 overs a day on the spot?

He looks more like a limited overs specialist. I would be very surprised if he does well in Test Cricket. Who's the quickest English bowler currently in County Cricket? Anyone know?
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #578 on: February 01, 2019, 11:49:12 AM »
Would imagine Archer, 131 @23 is a very good record for a 'one day specialist'
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #579 on: February 01, 2019, 11:53:31 AM »
On an uneven pitch you have to attack the stumps.
There are over 1000 test wickets between Broad and Anderson so you would think they would know. But they are still obsessed with the fourth stump line.
A little prediction...
Curran will be the pick of the bowlers today.
Stokes will bowl too short
Everyone will say how unlucky Broad and Anderson were not to take more wickets!
Moeen will bowl well.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #580 on: February 01, 2019, 11:58:26 AM »
Quote from: Buzz on February 01, 2019, 11:53:31 AM
On an uneven pitch you have to attack the stumps.
There are over 1000 test wickets between Broad and Anderson so you would think they would know. But they are still obsessed with the fourth stump line.
A little prediction...
Curran will be the pick of the bowlers today.
Stokes will bowl too short
Everyone will say how unlucky Broad and Anderson were not to take more wickets!
Moeen will bowl well.

Its funny how sometimes the best bowlers in the world tend not to do the basics right. This obsession of targeting the 4th stump has been raised in previous series as well. Wonder whats the reason behind it. Is it that tough for a bowler to change their line/lengths of attack? Is it the job of the bowling coach to provide that insight?
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #581 on: February 01, 2019, 11:59:32 AM »
I think he has lots of potential to do well in Test cricket. I wouldnt write anyone off because they've gone for runs in t20, it has happened to the best inc Steyn & Anderson.

In the here and now England are in a world of trouble. The last time we won in West Indies (2003 or 2004 i think) Harmison, Jones et all rightly got praise for some fantastic fast bowling but it was Englands experienced middle order that provided gritty, ugly runs for them to bowl at. I can remember Thorpe and Butcher in particular wearing plenty on the gloves and body

Grit is not a word I associate with this current England team.

Time to put it right if they come out firing first session with the ball
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #582 on: February 01, 2019, 12:02:56 PM »
Quote from: jamesisapayne on February 01, 2019, 11:23:20 AM
The same Archer that went for 20 in one over in the BB yesterday?

He looks a great talent and is certainly quick enough but can he bowl 15-20 overs a day on the spot?

I really wouldn't read too much into going for 20 in one over of a t20 match

Memory recalls a certain Stuart  Broad going for 36 in one once
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #583 on: February 01, 2019, 01:24:06 PM »
Put it in the same spot and you will go for 20 in an over in T20.

Not that it's damaging potential Test cricketers, or anything...
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #584 on: February 01, 2019, 02:22:08 PM »
Woeful drop from Buttler, moreso that Broad is bowling out of his skin
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