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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #750 on: February 07, 2019, 05:43:50 PM »

It might not have been the best Sri Lankan team they have ever out out, but we out bowled them in their conditions by picking a bowling attack suited to the conditions.  Not sure why we don't do this when playing in places like the West Indies and Australia where you need more pace and bounce.  Wood isn't everyone's cup of tea but he is probably the best we have at providing the captain with a different option
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #751 on: February 07, 2019, 05:57:41 PM »

The captain has to use him properly, last test I watch him play he was banging it in halfway down on a slow track, it was brainless cricket

Against Pakistan I think
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #752 on: February 07, 2019, 08:41:26 PM »

The captain has to use him properly, last test I watch him play he was banging it in halfway down on a slow track, it was brainless cricket

Against Pakistan I think
If he plays and the pitch is quick to be effective  he needs to be bowled in three or 4 over bursts no longer.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #753 on: February 07, 2019, 08:56:35 PM »

Hearing that Foakes could still be to injured to keep etc... and therefore out of the test.
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« Reply #754 on: February 07, 2019, 08:59:07 PM »

I think that it is a big ask for someone to keep and bat at 3 in test cricket.  Will be interesting to see if it does lead to a shift in the order
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #755 on: February 07, 2019, 09:03:19 PM »

Hearing that Foakes could still be to injured to keep etc... and therefore out of the test.


I will add to that Stokes and Woakes apparently!!

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/25945851/ben-stokes-misses-training-bruised-heel-england-regroup-st-lucia?platform=amp&__twitter_impression=true
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #756 on: February 07, 2019, 09:22:19 PM »

It might not have been the best Sri Lankan team they have ever out out, but we out bowled them in their conditions by picking a bowling attack suited to the conditions.  Not sure why we don't do this when playing in places like the West Indies and Australia where you need more pace and bounce.  Wood isn't everyone's cup of tea but he is probably the best we have at providing the captain with a different option
But Wood isn't actually quick or bouncy? If the press reports are true and Woakes has been nursing an injury all tour then it's barely believable they haven't called up cover, especially if Stokes can't bowl.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #757 on: February 07, 2019, 09:32:06 PM »

Wood the enforcer! Bowling at 85mph  :D

Over rated and does nothing with the ball. Wouldn’t class him as a outright fast bowler. As they say you’re a better player once you are out of the team.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #758 on: February 07, 2019, 10:24:56 PM »

I think that it is a big ask for someone to keep and bat at 3 in test cricket.  Will be interesting to see if it does lead to a shift in the order

It surely has to if Foakes is out injured. In a team full of either allrounders or number 6's the best bat has to go 3.

Root needs to do what is best for the team not his own interests.

Makes no sense to me at all why he just does not budge, he knows the others around him are not top order, gawd knows we even had Moeen Ali up there for a while.

the only lower order player left to try at 3 is butler....
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #759 on: February 07, 2019, 10:28:42 PM »

It might not have been the best Sri Lankan team they have ever out out, but we out bowled them in their conditions by picking a bowling attack suited to the conditions.  Not sure why we don't do this when playing in places like the West Indies and Australia where you need more pace and bounce.  Wood isn't everyone's cup of tea but he is probably the best we have at providing the captain with a different option

Umm, SL produced flat tracks rather than sandpits. They were scared of ICC sanctions rather than winning a series. Those flat tracks allowed England to compete more effectively. Let’s not claim too much that this side beat SL on their normal wickets.. they were flat and essentially lifeless so allowed England’s strike makers the ability to not get shown up
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #760 on: February 07, 2019, 10:39:55 PM »

I don't suppose it will happen, but Foakes is good enough (relatively speaking) to play as a batsman. There are certainly people I'd choose him to bat for my life ahead of.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #761 on: February 07, 2019, 10:40:22 PM »

Wood the enforcer! Bowling at 85mph  :D

Over rated and does nothing with the ball. Wouldn’t class him as a outright fast bowler. As they say you’re a better player once you are out of the team.

Wood has played enough international cricket now that people must be able to see he's not up to it.
Unfortunately I don't think there are many better options out there for the England selectors to pick from.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #762 on: February 07, 2019, 10:40:45 PM »

I don't suppose it will happen, but Foakes is good enough (relatively speaking) to play as a batsman. There are certainly people in England top order that I'd choose him to bat for my life ahead of.

Like numbers 1-7?
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« Reply #763 on: February 07, 2019, 10:44:13 PM »

Like numbers 1-7?

Pretty much. At least you'd know you'd be getting full commitment to the cause.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #764 on: February 07, 2019, 11:30:32 PM »

But Wood isn't actually quick or bouncy? If the press reports are true and Woakes has been nursing an injury all tour then it's barely believable they haven't called up cover, especially if Stokes can't bowl.

The pace he registers on the speed gun isn't exceptional by any means, but he looks a yard quicker the  any other England bowler on the times I have watched him bowl in person and he has one of  those ugly jittery run ups and actions that make him hard to line up for a batsman. I would use him at home where other bowlers are better suited to the conditions but I don't see the we have anything better for bowling in the conditions we have seen during this tour
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