Topic: England tour of West Indies (Read 147633 times)

LateBloomer · « **Reply #990 on:** February 12, 2019, 12:01:30 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on February 12, 2019, 09:42:56 AM

With all due respect, Joe Root is definitely not in the class of Kohli, KW and Smith. The way these guys have excelled in all formats says a lot about their technical excellence. Jow Root is a wonderful batsman but definitely not in the same league as Kohli, KW and Smith.

Root averages 5 runs more than KW and 10 more than Smith in ODI cricket. If anyone excels in that format I would say its Joe Root

I discount VK completely from this arguement because he's head and shoulders above anyone else but Roots clearly better than the other 2 in 50 over cricket

Has any footage of Gabriel mouthing off surfaced yet?

JB · « **Reply #991 on:** February 12, 2019, 12:14:49 PM »

I was watching last night and it looked like he was saying things under his breath, at one point it looked like Stokes was gesturing that he couldn't hear him

jonny77 · « **Reply #992 on:** February 12, 2019, 12:46:50 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on February 12, 2019, 10:31:56 AM

I think Root has handled this the right way so I disagree with some fellow for formites. Gabriel has got a warning and Root is basically saying he won't elaborate as what is said on the field says on the field. There's a difficult line of course as you could deem certain things said way over and above what is acceptable.

I think with the modern players we need to cut them a bit of slack,everyone can capture things on mobiles and there are microphones everywhere picking up things said in the heat of battle.

I'm not condoning any homophobic sledging but far as I can see Root handled this well so credit to him.I'm not Roots biggest fan either after this tour...but not everything can be laid at the Captains door-we have a whole raft of management out there.

Fat as kholi,Williamson and Smith go, totally agree, Root is our best player by miles but forth when compared to the others.

In a way that is almost condoning it imo, as we're 'cutting them some slack' as it's in the heat of battle. Sorry but I don't buy that, it's wrong plain and simple and shouldn't be allowed. I don't mind a bit of sledging, but there's a million things you can say without using racist or homophobic language. Roots handled it well but Gabriel should be investigated and if found guilty should be punished. Its the only way to eradicate this sort of stuff from the game.

FattusCattus · « **Reply #993 on:** February 12, 2019, 01:11:12 PM »

Quote from: NT50 on February 12, 2019, 11:58:18 AM

and is very easy to blow it off as a straight person.

If it was that easy to blow it off as a straight person - I'd never leave the house!

ppccopener · « **Reply #994 on:** February 12, 2019, 01:36:49 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on February 12, 2019, 12:46:50 PM

In a way that is almost condoning it imo, as we're 'cutting them some slack' as it's in the heat of battle. Sorry but I don't buy that, it's wrong plain and simple and shouldn't be allowed. I don't mind a bit of sledging, but there's a million things you can say without using racist or homophobic language. Roots handled it well but Gabriel should be investigated and if found guilty should be punished. Its the only way to eradicate this sort of stuff from the game.

That's fine that is your opinion and there will be plenty that agree with you. It's a difficult line you have highlighted yourself 'a bit of sledging' I'm not sure how that could be quantified or dealt with by the authorities, and therein lies the problem.

Generally I'm of the opinion the umpires are in charge of the game and they saw fit to warn Gabriel.
People have different views on sledging and where the line is.

I meant more to highlight how Root dealt with it, there's lots I don't like myself about him but I thought he handled that very well, his response on the field and off it could not have been better.

rickjames · « **Reply #995 on:** February 12, 2019, 02:14:53 PM »

Stokesy's starting the car, could be a fun hour or so

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #996 on:** February 12, 2019, 02:32:15 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on February 12, 2019, 10:31:56 AM

I think Root has handled this the right way so I disagree with some fellow for formites. Gabriel has got a warning and Root is basically saying he won't elaborate as what is said on the field says on the field. There's a difficult line of course as you could deem certain things said way over and above what is acceptable.

I think with the modern players we need to cut them a bit of slack,everyone can capture things on mobiles and there are microphones everywhere picking up things said in the heat of battle.

I'm not condoning any homophobic sledging but far as I can see Root handled this well so credit to him.I'm not Roots biggest fan either after this tour...but not everything can be laid at the Captains door-we have a whole raft of management out there.

Fat as kholi,Williamson and Smith go, totally agree, Root is our best player by miles but forth when compared to the others.

�Hear of battle�?? Ever been in an actual battle ?? Sport in no way compares and this is a consistent line trotted out to allow people to be abusive in the name of sport or being �competitive�.. tosh.. controlling your emotions and maintaining discipline is all part of sport and most especially... professional sport.

Long ban required to start sending a message but as always.. bugger all of relevance will happen

rickjames · « **Reply #997 on:** February 12, 2019, 02:46:37 PM »

Blinder of a catch from Mo

rickjames · « **Reply #998 on:** February 12, 2019, 02:59:02 PM »

Stuart Broad and being dropped in the slips, name a finer combo

rickjames · « **Reply #999 on:** February 12, 2019, 03:05:58 PM »

Turns out Buttler has had 24 catching chances for England and dropped 10 times. That's awful for a bloke who's trained as a keeper.

jonny77 · « **Reply #1000 on:** February 12, 2019, 03:13:06 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on February 12, 2019, 01:36:49 PM

That's fine that is your opinion and there will be plenty that agree with you. It's a difficult line you have highlighted yourself 'a bit of sledging' I'm not sure how that could be quantified or dealt with by the authorities, and therein lies the problem.

Generally I'm of the opinion the umpires are in charge of the game and they saw fit to warn Gabriel.
People have different views on sledging and where the line is.

I meant more to highlight how Root dealt with it, there's lots I don't like myself about him but I thought he handled that very well, his response on the field and off it could not have been better.

It's quite clear, no racist or homophobic language. This is in line with the laws of the game, so there is no grey area. Sledging is fine with me if it's not personal, racist or homophobic. Any decent human being should be able to figure the line out surely?

ppccopener · « **Reply #1001 on:** February 12, 2019, 03:24:18 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on February 12, 2019, 03:13:06 PM

It's quite clear, no racist or homophobic language. This is in line with the laws of the game, so there is no grey area. Sledging is fine with me if it's not personal, racist or homophobic. Any decent human being should be able to figure the line out surely?

I respect your view and how you interpret it, the umpires dealt with it on the field. Let's see if anything further comes of it. I'm sure the match officials are decent human beings.

edge · « **Reply #1002 on:** February 12, 2019, 03:31:03 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on February 12, 2019, 03:13:06 PM

It's quite clear, no racist or homophobic language. This is in line with the laws of the game, so there is no grey area. Sledging is fine with me if it's not personal, racist or homophobic. Any decent human being should be able to figure the line out surely?

Trouble is, there isn't any mention of anything like that in the laws of the game. Before we all climb on the the high horse it's worth bearing in mind that homosexuality is illegal currently or until very recently in Dubai (where the ICC is based), Trinidad (where Gabriel is from), St Lucia (where the game is being played), and in 7/12 of the test nations. Probably hard to expect much more severe than a warning.

edge · « **Reply #1003 on:** February 12, 2019, 03:32:38 PM »

Quote from: rickjames on February 12, 2019, 03:05:58 PM

Turns out Buttler has had 24 catching chances for England and dropped 10 times. That's awful for a bloke who's trained as a keeper.

It is about time they moved Buttler out of there! Not that surprising though, keeping and slipping are wildly different.

Didn't get to watch the spell the other day but wow does Wood look better without the daft runup!

rickjames · « **Reply #1004 on:** February 12, 2019, 03:54:20 PM »

I'd have more confidence in it if he didn't fall over all the time

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