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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1080 on: February 20, 2019, 10:13:07 PM »

I thought Morgan was using CA now?

Is he still using Spartan pads, or is that my imagination?
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1081 on: February 20, 2019, 11:08:22 PM »

The main difference between the sides is in the bowling. In Woakes, Plunkett and Rashid we have three decent bowlers, this is offset by the likes of Stokes, Wood and Moeen whom are pretty average to poor.

West Indies have Holder who's a decent first change bowler, but the rest are terrible.

We aren't outstanding with the ball by any stretch of the imagination but we are able to leave enough for the batsmen to even the balance
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1082 on: February 20, 2019, 11:17:24 PM »

4th Highest ODI chase ever and we did it at an absolute canter.

This is some side we've got
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1083 on: February 20, 2019, 11:20:02 PM »

What is amazing is the difference in confidence between the English Test side and the ODI side......and over half of the side are the same players!!
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1084 on: February 20, 2019, 11:36:04 PM »

The main difference between the sides is in the bowling.
The Windies bowling attack was not awesome in this game, true - but actually, would a single Windies player make it into the England side? Jason Holder might get in the squad...

Only caught the second half of the Windies innings, but looks from the scorecard like Plunkett is continuing his little downward run of form? Worrying for England if so, he's a big part of this team. Or was it just a flat one?
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1085 on: February 20, 2019, 11:49:02 PM »

The Windies bowling attack was not awesome in this game, true - but actually, would a single Windies player make it into the England side? Jason Holder might get in the squad...

Only caught the second half of the Windies innings, but looks from the scorecard like Plunkett is continuing his little downward run of form? Worrying for England if so, he's a big part of this team. Or was it just a flat one?
For my money holder wouldn't get in the England squad.

Darren Gough said on commentary that Plunkett's pace had started to diminish. Even during the BBL plunkett wasn't cranking it up
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1086 on: February 21, 2019, 06:41:13 AM »

The Windies bowling attack was not awesome in this game, true - but actually, would a single Windies player make it into the England side? Jason Holder might get in the squad...

Only caught the second half of the Windies innings, but looks from the scorecard like Plunkett is continuing his little downward run of form? Worrying for England if so, he's a big part of this team. Or was it just a flat one?

It was a flat one but you have to think that all the World Cup pitches will be the same run fest type pitches.

I thought the most worrying thing was that we were lacking real death bowling options. Plunkett and Wood going round the park meant Morgan had to bowl Woakes out his 10, which left Rashid and Stokes bowling at the end!
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1087 on: February 21, 2019, 06:50:51 AM »

All set up for Archer. to arrive and win the WC
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1088 on: February 21, 2019, 08:01:34 AM »

Two of the best death bowlers in the Big Bash this year were Gurney and Curran.

Can we bring in bowling subs for the world cup and have them bowl the last 10?
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1089 on: February 21, 2019, 08:21:28 AM »

There was not a blade of grass at Barbados or any swing or any movement....so tough for the Bowlers, stokes and Woakes were excellent and Rash could of bowled earlier( is there a better example of a one day suited bowler than Rashid)

So wickets will be flat over here but not that flat. T Curran and Willey did not play but yes perhaps another death bowler would complete the side, Archer seems to be hyped up quite a lot maybe that las spot will be his.

Despite the run fest of these games in my book the side with the best bowlers are favourites to win the WC over here.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1090 on: February 21, 2019, 08:32:52 AM »

Ok chaps - 16 man squad and then starting 11 in WC?

The top 6 are current and pick themselves .
Then I would include Hales as a replacement for any injuries or if Roy/Bairstow or anyone else needs a rest!
Then the rest would be bowlers. My squad would be:

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Morgs
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Woakes
Plunkett
Rashid
Wood
Hales
Curran (T)
Archer
Willey
Stone

Starting 11 is a tricky one!  :(
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1091 on: February 21, 2019, 08:52:40 AM »

Is it 15 or 16 man squads? Assuming the latter...

Roy, YJB, Root, Morgan, Stokes, Buttler nailed on top six with Hales the main batting reserve.

Woakes our number one seamer, Rash our top spinner and Ali, much as he gets occasional tap, is worth a spot.

That's ten, leaves four quick and one luxury.

Four quicks I'd have Archer, Wood or Stone, Willey and Tom Curran which is harsh on Plunkett but reflects age catching up. As for a luxury player...
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1092 on: February 21, 2019, 08:58:57 AM »

Bairstow
Roy
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Rashid
Curran
Plunkett

Hales
Vince
Parkinson
Wood/Archer
Willey

Ive included Curran as a death specialist in my XI, if he can bowl some economical overs before that then great but Stokes is more than capable so the 50 are covered

I have also picked Parkinson, assuming hes fit, as backup spinner in case of injury to Mo or Rash. I think 2 spinners are crucial in modern ODI cricket

One of Archer or Wood to be in the squad, the other to be wrapped up in cotton wool for The Ashes, not sure which way round I'd go

Cant justify dropping Plunkett after one bad game, hes been brilliant over the last 2 years for England

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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1093 on: February 21, 2019, 08:59:55 AM »

9 of the team that played the first  windies ODI plus willey  left arm ) with  Wood  woakes T Curran stone all in contention for the last spot.
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Re: England tour of West Indies
« Reply #1094 on: February 21, 2019, 09:02:26 AM »

Is it 15 or 16 man squads? Assuming the latter...

Roy, YJB, Root, Morgan, Stokes, Buttler nailed on top six with Hales the main batting reserve.

Woakes our number one seamer, Rash our top spinner and Ali, much as he gets occasional tap, is worth a spot.

That's ten, leaves four quick and one luxury.

Four quicks I'd have Archer, Wood or Stone, Willey and Tom Curran which is harsh on Plunkett but reflects age catching up. As for a luxury player...

Now hes a Surrey player  ;)
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