Topic: England tour of West Indies (Read 147599 times)

jamielsn15 · « **Reply #1095 on:** February 21, 2019, 09:45:37 AM »

Talksport commentary, "that's some bat New Balance have made Roy, he needs to frame it!" Hmmmmm....

Whilst I'm on the subject of Talksport, I'm minded, amid the hyperbole and general ott celebrations if anything remotely exciting happens, of an interview Martin Tyler gave some years ago. He basically said, "dont over emphasise, or provide too much excitement, as you have nowhere to go when something incredible does happen" citing Man City vs QPR as an example.

The Talksport guys get over excited at a long hop pulled six, or a catch taken lower than waist height

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #1096 on:** February 21, 2019, 10:52:27 AM »

Wood was back to his mid 80s dross again yesterday. Since he took that michelle in the first innings in St Lucia, he's only bowled four deliveries over 90mph in second innings there and the first ODI combined , as pointed out by one of the chaps working for TMS

19reading87 · « **Reply #1097 on:** February 21, 2019, 11:25:56 AM »

Talksport guys need to be careful with the words they use! A few times yesterday when a 6 was hit they would just shout �bomb!!� - not the greatest thing to say!

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #1098 on:** February 21, 2019, 11:32:29 AM »

Quote from: Mister Le Chiffre on February 21, 2019, 10:52:27 AM

Wood was back to his mid 80s dross again yesterday. Since he took that michelle in the first innings in St Lucia, he's only bowled four deliveries over 90mph in second innings there and the first ODI combined , as pointed out by one of the chaps working for TMS

he looked to be bowling well within himself second innings at st lucia, certainly at the beginning of his spell and still looked dangerous

cant comment on yesterday as i didnt see it, back at work

I'd say he was a better test bowler than one day anyway, seems to always cause issues in the test even when bowling high 80s rather than 90s

Kulli · « **Reply #1099 on:** February 21, 2019, 11:33:18 AM »

Are we talking about the same Mark Wood here, until that last test i can bearly remeber him bowling a singe good test spell.

ppccopener · « **Reply #1100 on:** February 21, 2019, 12:05:54 PM »

I think myself with Wood he needs to be used in short spells in tests. You saw yesterday on a flat deck with zero movement the quicker it comes the quicker it goes. All bowlers suffer on these wickets if there is no grass on the pitch. Woakes and Stokes I thought bowled with brains and were real good.

I'm not sure if Wood makes a final test 11 in our summer, slightly with regret it may mean no specialist keeper to get all the bowlers in.

I understand how this works(if Bairstow keeps) because if a batsman is dropped he is always replaced-we never weaken the batting.

Wood is not out and out scary fast anymore but could be handy in the Ashes.

Let's say in the one day team Archer takes his place for instance, we have not weakened the bowling and gained a lower order batter.

Maybe that's how it will work..

six and out · « **Reply #1101 on:** February 21, 2019, 01:36:40 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on February 21, 2019, 08:52:40 AM

Is it 15 or 16 man squads? Assuming the latter...

Roy, YJB, Root, Morgan, Stokes, Buttler nailed on top six with Hales the main batting reserve.

Woakes our number one seamer, Rash our top spinner and Ali, much as he gets occasional tap, is worth a spot.

That's ten, leaves four quick and one luxury.

Four quicks I'd have Archer, Wood or Stone, Willey and Tom Curran which is harsh on Plunkett but reflects age catching up. As for a luxury player...

It's a 15 man squad to be named to the ICC by the latest 23rd of April.

So that's actually before the Pakistan series - which is at the start of May

This makes things interesting because they won't have anytime to look at Archer in an International game before the WC squad submission.

CricketXI · « **Reply #1102 on:** February 21, 2019, 09:05:31 PM »

With such a long schedule ICC should let team pick 16 players.
Though Eng is clear favorites, they should improve on their bowling. I understand they can chase down 320-340 target even with early wickets but they need to improve their bowling everytime batting cannot take them through.

Manormanic · « **Reply #1103 on:** February 21, 2019, 09:22:46 PM »

Quote from: LateBloomer on February 21, 2019, 09:02:26 AM

Now hes a Surrey player

Of course 😂

edge · « **Reply #1104 on:** February 21, 2019, 10:03:05 PM »

10 of the fifteen are absolutely nailed on as @Manormanic says - Roy, Bairstow, Root, Morgan, Buttler, Stokes, Moeen, Woakes, Rashid from the starting XI plus Hales as backup for the top order.

So... that leaves 2 spots for starting seamers, probably 2 backup seamers and a backup allrounder who preferably bowls spin. For the seamers, it's obviously four from Willey, Plunkett, Wood, Curran and Archer. Plunkett is in for me as the only middle overs specialist, unless he loses form badly. Willey is lefty, experienced and an excellent allrounder so he's in. Probably leave Wood out as the most one-dimensional bowler from the last three. Denly's currently in the hot seat for the last spot, Dawson is probably the closest competition? But... in the hypothetical situation where you need injury cover for Moeen in a big game...? I'd be strongly tempted by Samit.

Manormanic · « **Reply #1105 on:** February 21, 2019, 10:07:13 PM »

I think Stone will remain in contention if fit, he's a similar bowler to a younger Plunkett. I wonder if Sam Curran also has an outside chance, or whether he will be asked to focus on red ball. Like the call on Samit too: Dawson is probably the better bowler but nowhere near as a bat.

six and out · « **Reply #1106 on:** February 22, 2019, 09:10:52 AM »

Like most have already said i think there already a number of certain places in the XI -

1.Roy
2.Bairstow
3.Root
4.Morgan
5.Buttler
6.Stokes
7.Moeen
8.Woakes
9.Rashid

The the squad members looking for those final spots, in no particular order -

10.Willey - left arm swing option so i think needs to be there for the right conditions
11.Plunkett - been playing for a long time now and unless he really loses it this series will get picked
12.Hales - easy pick as the back up batsman
13.Dawson - i am on the fence with this but i do think they will pick a spin bowling allrounder, to cover Mo/Rashid and Dawson was in the SL squad.

Possible others in the squad -

Wood - currently in the squad, however i worry about over bowling him if he is going to be our quickie in the Ashes.
Archer - the big question, are they prepared to pick him, when he hasn't played an ODI.
Tom Curran - bowled really well in the BBL and could make a late run
Stone - possible replacement for Plunkett but is injured

Personally for me it is -

14.Archer - everyday of the week i am picking him, he might not make the team but you surely have to have a look at him and have him there in case.
15.Curran - he bowled really well in the BBL and is another different style of bowler to have in the squad.

SD · « **Reply #1107 on:** February 22, 2019, 10:24:52 AM »

Quote from: six and out on February 20, 2019, 09:53:21 PM

5000 ODI runs up for Root. Quickest ever by an Englishman and 4th fastest ever, behind Amla, Kohli and Sir Viv.

I am always amazed when people suggest that Root's place is under threat. He had been an outstanding player for England in white ball cricket and demonstrates that you don't need to be able to smash the ball out of the ground in order to be successful in limited overs cricket.

Oddly his conversion rate of 50s into 100s is far better in ODIs than it is in tests

LateBloomer · « **Reply #1108 on:** February 22, 2019, 10:31:56 AM »

Quote from: SD on February 22, 2019, 10:24:52 AM

I am always amazed when people suggest that Root's place is under threat. He had been an outstanding player for England in white ball cricket and demonstrates that you don't need to be able to smash the ball out of the ground in order to be successful in limited overs cricket.

Oddly his conversion rate of 50s into 100s is far better in ODIs than it is in tests

Who suggested that?

ppccopener · « **Reply #1109 on:** February 22, 2019, 10:39:01 AM »

Never heard that suggested even in some crazy times on the forum. He is a superb player who uses his brains to built an innings especially chasing a target. He likes Morgan as captain and learns from him without the extra responsibility. An absolutely perfect number 3.

Interesting I heard on Sky commentary he spends a lot of time practising power hitting, but that's not his natural game.
I think he should play as he does, plenty around him to hit sixes.

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