Topic: IPL 2019 (Read 72220 times)

Alvaro · « **Reply #60 on:** March 25, 2019, 05:46:25 PM »

I'd take him at my club...

Great catch. This IPL isn't half fun in the first week before the fatigue sets in.

Mister Le Chiffre · « **Reply #61 on:** March 25, 2019, 05:54:08 PM »

Mujeeb not bad for a supposedly 17 year old

six and out · « **Reply #62 on:** March 25, 2019, 06:55:19 PM »

Absolutely disgraceful from Ashwin! That really was desperate measures! Buttler wasn't trying to steal a run, he waited until he walked out the crease and then ran him out! Yes maybe a bit dumb from Buttler but as I said in the other mankadd thread if you look at all the pros, they all watch the batsmen and start walking, no one watches the bowler.

ppccopener · « **Reply #63 on:** March 25, 2019, 07:20:56 PM »

The implications for club cricket are there if this becomes the norm, which I think it will.

As the ameteur game becomes a more aggressive sport this is another potential flashpoint to put fuel on the fire.

fros23 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 25, 2019, 07:51:06 PM »

It's the grey area of when he would be expected to deliver the ball that causes the issue. My view was that if he had bowled the ball Buttler would still have been in the crease, the umpire thought otherwise

ppccopener · « **Reply #65 on:** March 25, 2019, 07:54:16 PM »

Quote from: fros23 on March 25, 2019, 07:51:06 PM

It's the grey area of when he would be expected to deliver the ball that causes the issue. My view was that if he had bowled the ball Buttler would still have been in the crease, the umpire thought otherwise

Yes this is the crux of the problem.

jonny77 · « **Reply #66 on:** March 25, 2019, 08:27:54 PM »

Just seen it. Imo shouldn't have been given out as I'd have said he was in when he could have expected Ashwin to deliver the ball. If this is gonna be the norm I think the rule needs clarifying, as it's open to interpretation at the minute as to when it can be legally done. By the rules or not, doesn't sit right with me unless someone is obviously stealing yards.

AJ2014 · « **Reply #67 on:** March 25, 2019, 08:45:27 PM »

Ashwin will regret it later, not impressed at all! He delayed and then ran him out, don't think anyone would be following his footsteps! It's even worse doing this as a captain, anyways he won the game

Real Munson · « **Reply #68 on:** March 25, 2019, 08:56:07 PM »

If this is the way things are going, need to not back up way we were all taught, just stand there like a sprinter ready to go

Gurujames · « **Reply #69 on:** March 25, 2019, 08:59:23 PM »

Having been warned about my backing up (unjustly I might add). I stood 10 yards wide of the crease at the non stickers end. Would like to see an umpire give that in a league game. Problem solved.

ManHOOS · « **Reply #70 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:05:06 PM »

Ashwin act was disgraceful, on top of that with a shameful face he went to shake hand with Jos,like it was not a big deal, Jos refused to shake hand with this garbage in the name of human being. In his post match press conference with journalists Ashwin is talking rubbish to cover his shameful act.

jonny77 · « **Reply #71 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:08:14 PM »

Quote from: DorsetDan on March 25, 2019, 08:47:56 PM

According to the law you have to stay in until the time when the ball would be released (is ball roughly above shoulder level) so it is a routine Mankad, nothing grey about it. Can�t stand it myself but hey

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvcdKtABgKr/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=pb6124a2knpm

Looks in to me. When you see it Ashwin had to wait for him to leave the crease, which to me just doesn't seem right. By the time he'd have delivered the ball had he gone on to do so, I believe Butler would have been in.

brokenbat · « **Reply #72 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:12:59 PM »

Quote from: jonny77 on March 25, 2019, 09:08:14 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvcdKtABgKr/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=pb6124a2knpm

Looks in to me. When you see it Ashwin had to wait for him to leave the crease, which to me just doesn't seem right. By the time he'd have delivered the ball had he gone on to do so, I believe Butler would have been in.

Why is this different from cases where the wicketkeeper whips off the bails, as the batter slightly overbalances and lets his foot drag out for a split second? The batsman is not attempting a run, yet in those cases, the keeper is applauded for quick hands.

jonny77 · « **Reply #73 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:28:56 PM »

Quote from: brokenbat on March 25, 2019, 09:12:59 PM

Why is this different from cases where the wicketkeeper whips off the bails, as the batter slightly overbalances and lets his foot drag out for a split second? The batsman is not attempting a run, yet in those cases, the keeper is applauded for quick hands.

Because that's as stumpling, clear cut and not open to debate. If you can't see how that differs from a mankadding, which doesn't even seem like it was done well and is open to debate, then there's no point getting into it as we'll never agree

I'm not saying it isn't in the laws, just that I don't think it was out going by those laws. The fact it's dividing opinion so much means it needs looking at and clarifying surely?

csnew · « **Reply #74 on:** March 25, 2019, 09:30:42 PM »

It�s time we see more dismissals like this - that�s the only way batsmen will learn

Just need to get rid of the grey areas

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