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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2019, 04:33:41 PM »

A flying start 50% of the time is better than a crap start 100% of the time. Bairstow has opened before and done OK as far as I can remember (which isn't far admittedly)!

To the best of my knowledge, he did it once - yes, it went spectacularly well in the context of that one game, but it would be a tactic born of hope rather than expectation, especially as he will get no more than two first class games before the Ashes begin. 
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2019, 09:05:23 PM »

I do not know anything about his record, but why the fascination with Archer?  Is it because he shown potential?  A quick check of Cricinfo stats shows promise but he has only played 28 1st class games in 3 years and how many of those are 4 days v/s 1 day.  Will he be able to handle the work load of bowling 20+ overs per innings?
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2019, 09:14:21 PM »

Trev has said the bairstow up the order experiment is over, yjb will be keeping at batting 7 for the foreseeable future

Incredibly harsh on foakes! Incredibly harsh
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2019, 09:23:33 PM »

Trev has said the bairstow up the order experiment is over, yjb will be keeping at batting 7 for the foreseeable future

Incredibly harsh on foakes! Incredibly harsh

It is, but I rate Bairstows batting better than Foakes. So I think it's fair enough tbh.
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2019, 09:27:42 PM »

They can't seriously get rid of Foakes? He's brilliant!???
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2019, 09:31:10 PM »

He's not better than Root, Butler, Stokes or Bairstow tho. So if these are 4 to 7, with Ali at 8 then where does he fit?
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2019, 09:33:00 PM »

Trev has said the bairstow up the order experiment is over, yjb will be keeping at batting 7 for the foreseeable future

Incredibly harsh on foakes! Incredibly harsh

If that is the case Johnny has to be judged on current performance and if he keeps getting low scores he needs to be dropped and asked to go back to CC.  IMHO Foakes is the better keeper and the only thing keeping him out is mgmt perception that Johnny is better batsmen.
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2019, 09:33:49 PM »

I do not know anything about his record, but why the fascination with Archer?  Is it because he shown potential?  A quick check of Cricinfo stats shows promise but he has only played 28 1st class games in 3 years and how many of those are 4 days v/s 1 day.  Will he be able to handle the work load of bowling 20+ overs per innings?

First Class cricket is multi day by definition. Top level one day cricket is in a different category - List A Limited overs. So the answer to your question is that none of those 28 matches are one dayers

He is tall, fast and moves the ball. Not sure what there isnt to like about that. As his First Class average of 23 indicates

Oh and hes a gun fielder and a more than handy number 9. I see him as the direct replacement for Stuart Broad in the next year or two.


Incredibly harsh on foakes! Incredibly harsh

Disgusting treatment! I feel some sort of banner protest coming on at the Headingley Test  :D
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2019, 09:35:40 PM »

Trev has said the bairstow up the order experiment is over, yjb will be keeping at batting 7 for the foreseeable future

Incredibly harsh on foakes! Incredibly harsh

If that's right that is tough , I like Bairstow but he has levelled out in the last couple of years, Foakes has potential to be high class.

Bairstow making it clear he wants to keep while Foakes had the gloves I thought a bit out of order, I think a culture is being created in the England set up which don't sound good to me.

Perhaps Kevin Pieterson was right all along  :o
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2019, 09:37:08 PM »

First Class cricket is multi day by definition. Top level one day cricket is in a different category - List A Limited overs. So the answer to your question is that none of those 28 matches are one dayers

He is tall, fast and moves the ball. Not sure what there isnt to like about that. As his First Class average of 23 indicates

Oh and hes a gun fielder and a more than handy number 9. I see him as the direct replacement for Stuart Broad in the next year or two.


Thx for the information.
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Re: Ashes 2019
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2019, 09:58:31 PM »

If I were Foakes, I'd be on the phone to Surrey asking to start the season at three!!!
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2019, 10:18:33 PM »

If I were Foakes, I'd be on the phone to Surrey asking to start the season at three!!!

Foakes at three pope 4

To keep the Roy brigade happy he can open when Burns is away
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2019, 10:20:06 PM »

He's not better than Root, Butler, Stokes or Bairstow tho. So if these are 4 to 7, with Ali at 8 then where does he fit?

He averages 40

Bairstow in the same time high 20s low 30s

Who's the better bat currently
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Re: Ashes 2019
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2019, 10:33:05 PM »

It's a disgrace. Screw the ECB and their nasty habit of messing players around. Poor guy! I'd declare allegiance for Ireland rather than England at the moment.
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