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Sitonit

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Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« on: February 14, 2019, 02:54:35 PM »
I personally feel that a round handle naturally fits well in the human hand. The grip and hold is a lot more easy and comfortable. The bat is a lot easy and simple to maneuver with a round handle as per the anatomy of a human hand.

Many other players may find oval or semi oval handle better. Which is all good.

My question is, if I remember correctly, it used to be round handles only.
And the oval or semi oval came in as a marketing ploy in the name of innovation. Folks then slowly started to pick the idea.

The idea is, it helps stop the twist.

My argument is, if it helps stop the twist then it may also create some hindrance when you actually DO WANT to slightly twist the bat and get the right angle to play the intended stroke.

But also and more curiously, if the bat has a rubber grip and you are wearing gloves where the leathers in the palms provides some excellent traction, why would the bat twist so much in your hands that you need an oval handle?
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2019, 03:49:39 PM »
Quote from: DorsetDan on February 14, 2019, 03:14:06 PM
Have you seen a slo-mo of someone hitting a cricket ball? Anything off absolute dead centre causes a heck of a lot of rotation about the long axis of the bat even when you feel you've really middled it. So a grip and gloves definitely doesn't prevent this.

If you watch the last T20 between South Africa and Pakistan there's a great example of this.

Chris Morris dug out a yorker that hit the bottom corner of his bat, which actually spun 180 degrees in his hand.

As well as the rotation, the amount the bat "wobbles" in slow motion is something to behold (and something a lot of people will be unaware of!)
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2019, 03:55:13 PM »
Oval handles are design to stop you gripping to tight with your bottom hand have a personal dislike of them.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2019, 03:59:25 PM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on February 14, 2019, 03:55:13 PM
Oval handles are design to stop you gripping to tight with your bottom hand have a personal dislike of them.

Yeah, I'm with you on this. Personally I prefer to grip harder with the top hand, looser with the bottom. My school coach always said the top hand was for control, the bottom hand for power. Not sure if this is what anyone else was taught, but it works for me! I never specified an actual handle shape to be honest, I just tend to add a half grip extra for the top hand, to give me better purchase there.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2019, 04:06:47 PM »
Quote from: JK Lewis on February 14, 2019, 03:59:25 PM
Yeah, I'm with you on this. Personally I prefer to grip harder with the top hand, looser with the bottom. My school coach always said the top hand was for control, the bottom hand for power. Not sure if this is what anyone else was taught, but it works for me! I never specified an actual handle shape to be honest, I just tend to add a half grip extra for the top hand, to give me better purchase there.

Yes Justin your school coach was a man who knows
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2019, 05:28:34 PM »
I find that the oval shape far better suits trhe shape of my hand as the length of my finger joints is longer than the distance between my tumb and first finger but I think it is ultimately a case of personal preference and something in favour of getting  a bespoke bat made rather than picking one up of the shelf.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2019, 10:10:55 PM »
Don't even get me started on round handles... poorer for playing cricket with in every possible way.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2019, 11:41:19 PM »
Quote from: edge on February 14, 2019, 10:10:55 PM
Don't even get me started on round handles... poorer for playing cricket with in every possible way.

Almost all Asian batting superstars of the past and current time play with a round handle. It really can't be "poorer for playing cricket". I doubt even if Don Bradman used oval handles.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2019, 12:07:05 AM »
At least to me,

1) Oval handle  helps me know/feel the direction of the face of the bat without looking at the bat. With round handle, I wouldn't know at all unless i looked at the bat.
2) Secondly, oval feels more naturally fitted in my hand and also makes my bottom hand not grip too tightly. Maybe not all hand shapes are similar as OP feels round handle fits more naturally to him.

Interestingly, I thought 1) only applied to me, but Kane Williamson said that as well in one of his videos on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdJ3R2arNXM

« Last Edit: February 15, 2019, 12:09:25 AM by adb club cricketer »
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2019, 02:02:22 AM »
Quote from: adb club cricketer on February 15, 2019, 12:07:05 AM
At least to me,

1) Oval handle  helps me know/feel the direction of the face of the bat without looking at the bat. With round handle, I wouldn't know at all unless i looked at the bat.
2) Secondly, oval feels more naturally fitted in my hand and also makes my bottom hand not grip too tightly. Maybe not all hand shapes are similar as OP feels round handle fits more naturally to him.

Interestingly, I thought 1) only applied to me, but Kane Williamson said that as well in one of his videos on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdJ3R2arNXM

Exactly - imagine playing a racket sport with a round handle ... wouldn’t know where the racket is pointing.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2019, 02:54:14 AM »
Personally the shape of handle is something that has bothered me less and less as ive got older. I have a mix of oval and round handled bats, as long as they arent too thick I can use both with equal comfort

Quote from: brokenbat on February 15, 2019, 02:02:22 AM
Exactly - imagine playing a racket sport with a round handle ... wouldn’t know where the racket is pointing.

But we dont play a racket sport

We play a sport where you have a long time to re-set your stance and grip between each delivery.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2019, 03:29:51 AM »
Quote from: Sitonit on February 14, 2019, 11:41:19 PM
Almost all Asian batting superstars of the past and current time play with a round handle. It really can't be "poorer for playing cricket". I doubt even if Don Bradman used oval handles.
Haha, imagine how much better Bradman, Pollock, Sobers, Richards,Lara, Kohli and co would’ve been if they used an oval handle.!!
« Last Edit: February 15, 2019, 04:25:58 AM by Hoover »
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2019, 07:03:10 AM »
Ever since i started using an oval handle bat i have noticed a lot more control over my batting and a drastic decrease in unwanted cross bat shots. I am naturally left handed and it is my bottom habd while batting as well. Oval handle gives me more control over when my bottom hand is needed for powerful shots
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2019, 08:37:28 AM »
Quote from: edge on February 14, 2019, 10:10:55 PM
Don't even get me started on round handles... poorer for playing cricket with in every possible way.

Not if you have small hands which when you use oval handles your bottom hand gets forced off the handle  playing a shot even small ovals do this.
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Re: Round handle vs oval and semi oval handles
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2019, 08:52:10 AM »

I am used to oval handles now so i prefer them.

I tried using a round handle and with offside shots the bat was twisting in my hand and i was sort of pushing my bottom hand into the shot.

Cuts , pulls, flicks are all okay with a round handle.

I feel all the drives, on the other hand, give better power/control with an oval handle.
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