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Don't feel like buying any other...
« on: February 27, 2019, 12:53:51 PM »
Since I've had some very good fortune to get best grade 1 bats, don't feel like buying lesser than grade 1 willow bats, what's your take on this?
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2019, 01:03:01 PM »
It’s your money and you can do as you please but a well-pressed g1 does not perform any better than a well-pressed bat of a  lower grade.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2019, 01:26:08 PM »
I agree with @Gurujames here. I never bought so called grade 1 or pro bats. All my bats look ugly i.e uneven grains, marks on face etc(beside harrow GM chrome thats on sale ) but they all play well. Especially my current match bat with 6 grains. I cant imagine any other bat can outperform it regardless of grades.
I wont buy anything else due to my match bat being so good and in future i get it copied from same manufacturer. manufacturer never said what grade was it and i never asked. One forum member senior player saw it called it top willow and he know more than i do. And price I paid for it you be shocked to know. ( very very very cheap)
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2019, 01:58:03 PM »
Again have to agree with @Gurujames, some of my best performing bats have been butterflies and g2. I’m not bothered about what the bat looks like, I’m only bothered about performance so for me it’s performance over looks any day of the week
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2019, 01:58:41 PM »
Agreed with you all, as I've been using grade 3/4, and I know they can play better than expected, but now that I can make a comparison, these bats make such a beautiful sound tapping a cricket ball on them, ping is definitely much better, to be honest haven't used them yet in the nets, I'm preparing them, so use grade 3 for indoor nets which I thought is as good as any other grade
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2019, 02:02:57 PM »
Again it's not about the looks, very top ones, don't always be pretty 😀 but it's willow and pressing that makes them what they're
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2019, 02:05:56 PM »
Give me a cheap "low grade" butterfly over and expensive "high grade" bat any day.

Grading is purely cosmetic. Again I agree with Gurujames. The ping is all down to the pressing.

Ask @InternalTraining his views on the matter  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 02:09:14 PM »
Do you know very top end willow also has butterfly Stained bats? £60 vs £300 butterfly, £300 one will play better 😀
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2019, 02:21:31 PM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 27, 2019, 02:09:14 PM
Do you know very top end willow also has butterfly Stained bats? £60 vs £300 butterfly, £300 one will play better 😀

If all things apart from the price are equal, then they'll perform the same.

As for spending £300 on a butterfly stained bat, that's the definition of "more money than sense"

Please do share this source for £60 butterfly bats though, sounds a bargain!
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2019, 02:38:01 PM »
To be fair I paid quite a lot for this butterfly from Tim



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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2019, 05:07:35 PM »
"Grade 1" or "Grade 20" has NEVER been my first preference or the baseline of selecting a bat.

The pick-up, feel and balance, is what that matters to me. I don't give a flying flock as to what grade of willow is it if the bat feels good in hands.

Grading is also subjective, there is no set in concrete standard to grade the willow - new terms come up every year to jack up the price.

Folks hardly seem to ponder that for the last 200 years these are the same trees producing G1 - but somehow they now produce G1+, G1++, G1++ Limited, G1 Pro Grade, G1+++ Professional, G1++++ Kohli Grade, and whatnot kinda BS that was unheard of before.

 
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2019, 05:11:03 PM »
Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on February 27, 2019, 02:21:31 PM
If all things apart from the price are equal, then they'll perform the same.

As for spending £300 on a butterfly stained bat, that's the definition of "more money than sense"

Please do share this source for £60 butterfly bats though, sounds a bargain!

Butterfly willow is the lowest grade of willow that tells us something.
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2019, 05:19:04 PM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on February 27, 2019, 05:11:03 PM
Butterfly willow is the lowest grade of willow that tells us something.
that might be do in your book but that's not true, what we see is a big mark, calling it butterfly as it looks like that, to grade for butterfly you wouldn't even know it's a butterfly 😀😀 there would be no marks there like you're used to use those bats, they're a lower grade but still very good bats
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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2019, 05:19:59 PM »
Quote from: Sitonit on February 27, 2019, 05:07:35 PM
"Grade 1" or "Grade 20" has NEVER been my first preference or the baseline of selecting a bat.

The pick-up, feel and balance, is what that matters to me. I don't give a flying flock as to what grade of willow is it if the bat feels good in hands.

Grading is also subjective, there is no set in concrete standard to grade the willow - new terms come up every year to jack up the price.

Folks hardly seem to ponder that for the last 200 years these are the same trees producing G1 - but somehow they now produce G1+, G1++, G1++ Limited, G1 Pro Grade, G1+++ Professional, G1++++ Kohli Grade, and whatnot kinda BS that was unheard of before.
You don't know that man, you've not seen them 😀 😀
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Re: Don't feel like buying any other...
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2019, 11:06:14 PM »
Quote from: AJ2014 on February 27, 2019, 05:19:59 PM
You don't know that man, you've not seen them 😀 😀

Probably.

And I think this guy has not seen them either.

Skip to @1:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s8zEjRyPaY
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