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t2ylo

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What is the difference?
« on: March 10, 2019, 07:01:50 AM »

I’ve assumed that XT Black & XT White were identical - I could not find differing descriptions from retailers.

So I picked up a Black to go with my White. Ignore the LE stickers I just had those knocking about in my cricket drawer.

Same weight for both bats now set up at 2lb 7oz but there’s differences

Firstly I modified the toe on the White after a little net damage, so ignore that

Overall height is identical. Blade length differs. Shape differs. The black handle was thinner until I put a thin chevron underneath which has made weights identical. 

Who makes Adidas bats? Why would they be different? Is it just my imagination?







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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2019, 08:47:40 AM »

In my head white was fuller profile to toe and black was duckbill. But both look similar profile in these photos.
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2019, 01:07:09 PM »

Could just be manufacturing variation? I guess they are Indian made and I know that some of the top Indian bats come with a bit of variation in handle size, amount of bow etc. Just watch some of the reviews on EAS where they have several bats for sale that are 'the same'
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2019, 06:32:51 PM »

These both look like xt 2018 model? The 2019 model has different stickers on the back.

What grade are these bats? I'm guessing xt 2.0 or 3.0 from the grains? I'm interested because I'm thinking of ordering one and don't know which grade to choose. Apparently Adidas grade quite generously, so even a 5.0 can be decent.

Apparently the xt White has a more pronounced bow, but yours look to be the other way round. The handle is usually small to medium with full oval. On the IJC review I watched they said the black had a thinner handle.
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2019, 11:15:42 PM »

That white one is a 5.0
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2019, 11:58:32 PM »

Thanks. Looks like decent grains. Was it hand selected from the warehouse?
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2019, 09:50:20 AM »

That white one is a 5.0

And it really is a very good bat too!!!

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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2019, 10:27:51 AM »

Change of factory?
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Re: What is the difference? And adidas xt black
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2019, 10:36:07 AM »

I bought one of the special offer xt black 5.0 from Actvinstinct last week. It arrived quickly and I was so impressed with the weight (2lb6.8oz) and pick up that I ordered the 3.0 as well with the idea that it might be even better and prettier and I could return whichever I liked least.

The 3.0 arrived late, so they refunded my postage, which was good. The comparison was quite interesting though. Both bats came up at an amazing 2lb6.8oz, but their profiles were significantly different. The 5.0 was obviously a denser cleft, with smaller edges, shoulder and spine, also significantly thinner toe. For the same weight, the 3.0 has 37mm edges and 60mm spine which is impressive. I've put some pictures of the bats below. The 3.0 has a very similar profile to the Mrf Kohli shape, and the edges /spine are almost as big (but not quite). The handles are both very thin ovals and feel fine in the hand at this weight.

Both bats have almost identical balancing point as well. The denser 5.0 does definitely pick up lighter though. So now I have the problem of choosing which should be returned. I expect I'll keep the 3.0 as the profile is closer to my other match bat and only cost £35 more. But it  definitely picks up heavier. Maybe because some of the mass is placed further behind the axis of the handle?

Any thoughts or recommendations from forumites welcome...

This does illustrate that grade of willow could matter for performance. It's OK if the two clefts have same density. But if they don't then the lower grade denser cleft will have to have wood taken off it to achieve the same weight...

Pics of both bats :
https://photos.app.goo.gl/k5K39TWkyfinFtrA6

Pics of xt black 3.0 (still in cellophane) and comparison with MRF:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/AmTbrWnanVPXkgCC8

Pics of xt black 5.0:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/xPQqS1rvhLnGyxSg8

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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2019, 11:39:18 AM »

The 5.0 looks like a bleached butterfly it could be a beast.
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2019, 11:44:14 AM »

Yes it does. Both bats tap up nicely with the mallet, but obviously can't try with a ball yet... The 5.0 is a bit dead in the toe as it's so thin...
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2019, 02:38:27 PM »

I’ve picked up another Black XT 5.0 - the performance for the price at a low weight makes them a proper bargain. Photos to follow.
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2019, 03:55:35 PM »

Good for you. Be interesting to see how the edges /spine compare to your other one and the one I have.
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2019, 09:31:23 PM »

I managed to get hold of a blank bat from the bats set aside for the Curran’s - only hit a few balls with it but seems a very good bat! Trying to get hold of some genuine adidas stickers for it
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Re: What is the difference?
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2019, 11:05:36 PM »

Yes that could be difficult. I haven't seen many on ebay. Are they supposed to be roughly xt black/white bats, or something else?
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