Topic: Videos of you playing.... (Read 122306 times)

Buzz · « **Reply #525 on:** July 22, 2017, 02:13:35 PM »

Quote from: potzy248 on July 21, 2017, 08:47:00 AM

Promise last one of me. No Kane this time. Ive moved the camera up and its in HD now so easier to see. Second bat back after long break. Just good to have other peoples feedback as I often miss stuff. Cheers.
P.S I got hit in the guts early doors and I think thats why I sat on the backfoot all session lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz5wcQGWQdI

Giant bouncy castle runs and cricket nets =perfect. Dump the kids and have a net. You win.

P.s. you need to complete your trigger earlier so you can get your feet to move into position better. (Or ditch the trigger) that will help stop you being pinned.

potzy248 · « **Reply #526 on:** July 22, 2017, 06:05:43 PM »

Quote from: Buzz on July 22, 2017, 02:13:35 PM

Giant bouncy castle runs and cricket nets =perfect. Dump the kids and have a net. You win.

P.s. you need to complete your trigger earlier so you can get your feet to move into position better. (Or ditch the trigger) that will help stop you being pinned.

@Buzz I actually did even know I had one until the videos. Could you explain what you mean by completing it earlier and how that helps please? Cheers.

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #527 on:** July 24, 2017, 08:05:44 AM »

I think @Buzz is referring to the double (sometimes triple ) quick bat tap and tiny forward press of the front foot ( but , he can correct me if I'm wrong

). If you can have less time gap between the single tap at the start and the double/triple tap you might then get the forward press completed earlier .
When i watched your vids i thought only positive things other than 'geez he's still tapping/pressing so late , it looks like he's depriving himself of response time' .
I agree with Buzz in that you would potentially get pinned less often on the crease with only a half (or not fully extended) step forward if you had that fraction of a second extra stillness ( from trigger completion ) before ball release.

potzy248 · « **Reply #528 on:** July 24, 2017, 09:00:27 PM »

Quote from: Biggie Smalls on July 24, 2017, 08:05:44 AM

I think @Buzz is referring to the double (sometimes triple ) quick bat tap and tiny forward press of the front foot ( but , he can correct me if I'm wrong ). If you can have less time gap between the single tap at the start and the double/triple tap you might then get the forward press completed earlier .
When i watched your vids i thought only positive things other than 'geez he's still tapping/pressing so late , it looks like he's depriving himself of response time' .
I agree with Buzz in that you would potentially get pinned less often on the crease with only a half (or not fully extended) step forward if you had that fraction of a second extra stillness ( from trigger completion ) before ball release.

Cheers for the advice. Do you mean hold my weight on the back foot when the bowler releases the ball with only a half step front foot? I will definitely be working on the trigger movement next bat. As I said to @Buzz I was unaware that I had a trigger movement. Cheers mate.

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #529 on:** July 25, 2017, 07:56:36 AM »

Quote from: potzy248 on July 24, 2017, 09:00:27 PM

Cheers for the advice. Do you mean hold my weight on the back foot when the bowler releases the ball with only a half step front foot? I will definitely be working on the trigger movement next bat. As I said to @Buzz I was unaware that I had a trigger movement. Cheers mate.

I think if you finish the double tap a bit earlier you can complete the forward press a bit earlier thus being still for a fraction more before delivery (it looks like , on occasion , at point of delivery , your feet are still in the process of doing their trigger .... sometimes it looks like your bat hasnt reached the top of its backlift (is still on the upward arc) aswell because of the lateness of the tap).
If you were still , at release point for a fraction longer , then you could get a bigger stride in forwards , and not look pinned on the crease/only having a small/half step forward . Also , if you were still for that fraction longer , you could move further back when deciding to go on the back foot .
In terms of the trigger/front press itself , i don't think its how big or small it is , rather that if its not completed early enough , your weight will be taking you to that predetermined position during delivery , at which point its harder to adjust to going fully forward or back etc .
Perhaps , expermiment with your tapping a bit . You tap , then wait , then do two or three quick , light taps right at the last moment.....as an example, if you did one less quick tap at the end , that might give you that extra fraction of a second to complete the trigger before delivery ( this is actually an issue that steve smith worked on early in his international career ).
Having said all this , its only a small thing , like i said earlier , your batting in general , looks really good . I like how compact you are and you keep your shapes really well . You look like someone with time at the crease , so if you didn't deprive yourself of a moment via the lateness of the trigger , you'd be the kind of bat that looked like they had all the time in the world .

Kulli · « **Reply #530 on:** July 25, 2017, 08:54:15 AM »

Quote from: potzy248 on July 20, 2017, 02:39:35 AM

He's the Northern Districts batting coach. Ex Black Cap Matt Horne. Great guy as well. More bouncing ideas off each other, asking for feedback. I don't know how he doesn't injure his shoulder with all the throwing he does, seems like batting coaches need to have good shoulders from what Ive seen.

He's also my only test victim, bowled and would have been stumped of it hadn't clipped the top of off. Had alr day made about 70 odd mind you. Was a great guy to chat with afterwards when you were only a kid also.

potzy248 · « **Reply #531 on:** July 25, 2017, 09:37:44 AM »

Had a tinker tonight. Tried the early trigger for about the first few minutes and last 4 mins of the video. Definitely helped as you say with getting forward so will explore that. When I stopped doing the trigger I thought I was standing still before delivery only to find out on video that I was doing the small step trigger again. I honestly don't even feel I'm doing it and my shots were still ok. I think the early trigger for faster bowling will definitely help. Thanks @Biggie Smalls and @Buzz Ive been critiqued before and it certainly helps.

https://youtu.be/xjPwFPibbmE&fmt=22

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #532 on:** July 25, 2017, 09:50:12 AM »

Quote from: potzy248 on July 25, 2017, 09:37:44 AM

Had a tinker tonight. Tried the early trigger for about the first few minutes and last 4 mins of the video. Definitely helped as you say with getting forward so will explore that. When I stopped doing the trigger I thought I was standing still before delivery only to find out on video that I was doing the small step trigger again. I honestly don't even feel I'm doing it and my shots were still ok. I think the early trigger for faster bowling will definitely help. Thanks @Biggie Smalls and @Buzz Ive been critiqued before and it certainly helps.

https://youtu.be/xjPwFPibbmE

@potzy248 . No worries mate . Funny about trigger movements heh ?.... we develop them for a reason , so even if we try to stop them they tend to come back . So , i think the key is to embrace them in getting the positive out of them ( to coil up and prepare /get synced for delivery ) , but not have them get in the way .
Cool that in one session of a little tinkering you're getting an insight of what modified /early trigger completion might mean for your own game .
Personally , i had a similar issue not long ago . I felt if i didnt have momentum going towards the bowler ,via my trigger , at delivery point , that i would be later on any bowling 70odd mph or quicker . Turned out to be counterintuitive ie / with my trigger finished earlier ,and a bit more stillness at moment of ball release , i feel that im about 5mph better off (in other words , i feel i have the same time now when facing 83mph as i used to at 78mph etc).

Biggie Smalls · « **Reply #533 on:** July 25, 2017, 10:17:16 AM »

Quote from: Biggie Smalls on July 25, 2017, 09:50:12 AM

@potzy248 . No worries mate . Funny about trigger movements heh ?.... we develop them for a reason , so even if we try to stop them they tend to come back . So , i think the key is to embrace them in getting the positive out of them ( to coil up and prepare /get synced for delivery ) , but not have them get in the way .
Cool that in one session of a little tinkering you're getting an insight of what modified /early trigger completion might mean for your own game .
Personally , i had a similar issue not long ago . I felt if i didnt have momentum going towards the bowler ,via my trigger , at delivery point , that i would be later on any bowling 70odd mph or quicker . Turned out to be counterintuitive ie / with my trigger finished earlier ,and a bit more stillness at moment of ball release , i feel that im about 5mph better off (in other words , i feel i have the same time now when facing 83mph as i used to at 78mph etc).

Also , having watched the vid in full..... when you finish tapping earlier your trigger steps are larger . When you are finishing your taps later your steps are smaller ( as if you are interupted in travel /trigger steps by the arrival of the ball ) .
It does look like you have more time with the earlier trigger completion . But , the earlier trigger completion is having the effect of the steps being a true one-two /front-back foot shuffle trigger .
Look at where you finish up . Is that where you want to be ? If so , cool . If not , work towards that earlier trigger completion but with similar , smaller step distance( in that trigger movement) as like before ( to me that would be the ideal). For the moment , the shuffle might just be exaggerated because you are consciously trying to do something a bit differnt to your current instinct.
I guess ,if you feel like you like to play on the onside a lot , then the larger shuffle /trigger movement could really work for you (think steve smith , but not to that degree). If you feel you want to play more to the off (or evenly to both sides of the wicket ) then smaller shuffle/trigger would probably be better for you ( or if you like how that bigger shuffle feels , then you can tinker with taking a guard more to legside than currently , so you still wind up in the same spot ).
All just part of the tinkering process , just feel them out , decide yay or nay , and don't think too much/too negatively about it while batting . You can look at footage afterwards.....and ultimately, you can abandon the tinkering if it starts scrambling your batting instincts too much .....so , no sweat !

edge · « **Reply #534 on:** February 20, 2018, 02:42:31 PM »

Been adjusting things a little in nets so far this winter - noticed through coaching and about of video that I'm fidgeting about far too much pre-delivery which isn't helping my consistency (which wasn't great last year), so I've decided to try a trigger as a way of consolidating that fidgeting into one movement and then staying still. Gone for just a small step straight back as I don't want to change too much, just move myself into a still position before delivery. Still need a little work as I think I'm triggering a bit late some of the time, but it feels good and I think I'm picking the ball up well more consistently than I was before. Plenty of time to wear it in before the season, any feedback welcome.

https://youtu.be/pEWBbmxMXYM

LEACHY48 · « **Reply #535 on:** February 20, 2018, 03:00:07 PM »

Quote from: edge on February 20, 2018, 02:42:31 PM

Been adjusting things a little in nets so far this winter - noticed through coaching and about of video that I'm fidgeting about far too much pre-delivery which isn't helping my consistency (which wasn't great last year), so I've decided to try a trigger as a way of consolidating that fidgeting into one movement and then staying still. Gone for just a small step straight back as I don't want to change too much, just move myself into a still position before delivery. Still need a little work as I think I'm triggering a bit late some of the time, but it feels good and I think I'm picking the ball up well more consistently than I was before. Plenty of time to wear it in before the season, any feedback welcome.

https://youtu.be/pEWBbmxMXYM

Looks good if you ask me but a fair few times your triggering and then not moving again meaning you compensate with your hands which is fine indoors with naff all ball movement but when you get outside and it's seaming etc this becomes a problem. I had the same issue and really struggled because of it through early games when the decks favoured the bowlers. Only way out of it is forcing your head right to the ball and your foot will follow.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #536 on:** February 20, 2018, 03:05:22 PM »

Quote from: edge on February 20, 2018, 02:42:31 PM

Been adjusting things a little in nets so far this winter - noticed through coaching and about of video that I'm fidgeting about far too much pre-delivery which isn't helping my consistency (which wasn't great last year), so I've decided to try a trigger as a way of consolidating that fidgeting into one movement and then staying still. Gone for just a small step straight back as I don't want to change too much, just move myself into a still position before delivery. Still need a little work as I think I'm triggering a bit late some of the time, but it feels good and I think I'm picking the ball up well more consistently than I was before. Plenty of time to wear it in before the season, any feedback welcome.

https://youtu.be/pEWBbmxMXYM

^ How do you get out the most?

The camera angle is limited and I can't see the ball trajectory at all but here are my observations...
Your hands tend to fall away from your navel/body area and you make a last second adjust when lining up the bat. Most of the time it works fine but against a quick out-swinger, pitching from middle-off, will have you reaching and edging - 5:04 -5:11. Because your hands are dropped away, your bat is arching from a wide angle - gulley position to straight 4:51. You should've nailed that cover/off drive in 4:52 but the ball went square. Anything that pitches middle/leg, you are cleanly putting it away on the on-side.

Keep your hands close to your navel area and line up your shots with your shoulder dipping first (while keeping your hands close). That would keep your bat's arc straighter, coming down from 1st slip line, instead of gulley or wider.

edge · « **Reply #537 on:** February 21, 2018, 09:45:42 AM »

Cheers for the input gents, I'm not too worried about not moving my feet much post-trigger as long as I'm transferring weight well, that's always been how I've batted and I tend to do well when the ball's doing a bit.

@InternalTraining - must be the angle throwing you off bud, the one I've played and missed at was 5th stump rather than pitching middle, just should have left it! I'm pretty confident with my general technique so not looking to.mess with that, off the top of my head I've nicked off once in the past 3 seasons so not concerned there. Change to a trigger is aimed at getting me on more consistently still positions and picking up the ball bettermore of the time as a result, made too many slight misjudgements or silly mistakes last season.

smilley792 · « **Reply #538 on:** March 28, 2018, 03:26:50 PM »

So. First chance of an outdoor net due to the rubbish weather.

Getting used to the ball boucning higher than 10inch took a few balls.

https://youtu.be/hmGDEQ_P8wg

Not my best net, not my worse. Had fun and that�s why I play.

(Note, only a small proportion for he video is helmet cam, majority stump cam)

blindowl · « **Reply #539 on:** March 28, 2018, 08:52:55 PM »

a few 'interesting' deliveries to keep you awake at the crease in that net @smiley !

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