Topic: Your 2019 season (Read 57562 times)

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #60 on:** April 23, 2019, 08:42:15 AM »

Quote from: RPC/Blueroom Cricket - Adie on April 21, 2019, 09:32:48 PM

Who knows why they blocked but if you�re giving your time and paying to pay.. why should you gift it away if you don�t think you can win? Nothin worse than getting tonked about then surrendering quickly just so the winners can �get in the bar�

Maybe they batted for bonus pts ? Maybe they didn�t have much left ? Maybe out of form ? Maybe they just aren�t hitters ? Maybe they just thought � we aren�t going to win so let�s just bat the overs and see what happens�.. Lots of reasons . Win lose doe t change the fact people generally give up their time, pay money to play (generally wanting to bat) and so they might want to actually .. you know.. bat

My point being that they showed no intent in ever trying to chase it down. As i mentioned maybe that was because we knocked the guy over 1st ball of there innings and he was the best bat, maybe they are out of form although its week 1 of a season!!
I can totally understand if your top order is blown away and then trying to bat for bonus points or even deny another team full points but to not go for it or show any intent to rotate the strike etc is just weird to me. They didn�t even get to the minimum score to get at least 1 bonus point.
It wasn�t a particularly negative point i was raising, as you say its not my club and the blocker at the top was there captain who also opened the bowling and stood at 1st slip all day so maybe he like to get full value for his match fee.

SLA · « **Reply #61 on:** April 23, 2019, 09:44:29 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 23, 2019, 08:42:15 AM

My point being that they showed no intent in ever trying to chase it down. As i mentioned maybe that was because we knocked the guy over 1st ball of there innings and he was the best bat, maybe they are out of form although its week 1 of a season!!
I can totally understand if your top order is blown away and then trying to bat for bonus points or even deny another team full points but to not go for it or show any intent to rotate the strike etc is just weird to me. They didn�t even get to the minimum score to get at least 1 bonus point.
It wasn�t a particularly negative point i was raising, as you say its not my club and the blocker at the top was there captain who also opened the bowling and stood at 1st slip all day so maybe he like to get full value for his match fee.

The question of how to approach an innings when the game is clearly over as a contest (which is obviously how they felt) is always a tricky one in W/L cricket. A well-designed bonus points system that incentivises the batting team to try to score runs (1pt for 50 runs etc), and the bowling team to try to take wickets (1pt for 2 wickets etc) at least encourages positive play from both sides.

Otherwise the choice is either "have a slog and get it over with", or "have a net", neither of which are particularly satisfactory.

jjelricksmith · « **Reply #62 on:** April 23, 2019, 10:21:02 AM »

Not the best start with the bat opening and got 13&1 chopped on both times with balls coming back in. Foot movement just a bit lazy start of the season. 1-30 off 6 on Saturday, 1-20 off 7 on Monday with a couple dropped catches in the slips. One of those was a lad on his first ball who went on to get 100* not the best start lets hope this picks up

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #63 on:** April 23, 2019, 09:38:34 PM »

Quote from: SLA on April 23, 2019, 09:44:29 AM

The question of how to approach an innings when the game is clearly over as a contest (which is obviously how they felt) is always a tricky one in W/L cricket. A well-designed bonus points system that incentivises the batting team to try to score runs (1pt for 50 runs etc), and the bowling team to try to take wickets (1pt for 2 wickets etc) at least encourages positive play from both sides.

Otherwise the choice is either "have a slog and get it over with", or "have a net", neither of which are particularly satisfactory.

This. The bonus pts system is usually pretty dire and doesn�t incentivise a losing team enough to bother. Hence as you say you either do just have a slog or simply bat out the overs. As you also say, both are pretty dire ways to play the game for all 22 players as it just dies a death and everyone loses interest.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #64 on:** April 23, 2019, 09:39:41 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 23, 2019, 08:42:15 AM

My point being that they showed no intent in ever trying to chase it down. As i mentioned maybe that was because we knocked the guy over 1st ball of there innings and he was the best bat, maybe they are out of form although its week 1 of a season!!
I can totally understand if your top order is blown away and then trying to bat for bonus points or even deny another team full points but to not go for it or show any intent to rotate the strike etc is just weird to me. They didn�t even get to the minimum score to get at least 1 bonus point.
It wasn�t a particularly negative point i was raising, as you say its not my club and the blocker at the top was there captain who also opened the bowling and stood at 1st slip all day so maybe he like to get full value for his match fee.

Showing no intent from ball one is weird unless they really did know they just simply couldn�t realistically chase it. Only way to kmow is ask or remember for the next game and maybe declare earlier and tempt them into a chase...

edge · « **Reply #65 on:** April 23, 2019, 10:55:15 PM »

Not having a crack at a 209 chase in 45 overs is a bit weird to be honest, even if you did lose your best bat early or whatever.

First game of the season on Sunday for me, looking forward to getting going. Unfortunately it looks like it's going to be a bit of a 14-a-side farce which is a shame, but still a chance to get a run out before the season starts properly.

SLA · « **Reply #66 on:** April 24, 2019, 08:52:20 AM »

Quote from: edge on April 23, 2019, 10:55:15 PM

Not having a crack at a 209 chase in 45 overs is a bit weird to be honest, even if you did lose your best bat early or whatever.

First game of the season on Sunday for me, looking forward to getting going. Unfortunately it looks like it's going to be a bit of a 14-a-side farce which is a shame, but still a chance to get a run out before the season starts properly.

It could be that they were taking the approach of seeing off the opening bowlers and keeping wickets in hand before having a pop at the change bowlers, but just totally misjudged it, scored too slowly, got in a bit of a hole, and then the change bowlers weren't as rubbish as they had hoped. Its not unheard of.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #67 on:** April 24, 2019, 09:22:59 AM »

Quote from: SLA on April 24, 2019, 08:52:20 AM

It could be that they were taking the approach of seeing off the opening bowlers and keeping wickets in hand before having a pop at the change bowlers, but just totally misjudged it, scored too slowly, got in a bit of a hole, and then the change bowlers weren't as rubbish as they had hoped. Its not unheard of.

A few of us were talking about. Sats game last night and this is what we decided must have been there plan. The team we played scored over 250 on 6 occasions last season with runs spread across the whole team. Our bowling is our strongest suit with a great mix of good pace upfront, medium swing in the middle along with 3 good tidy spinners so the opportunity to take a few overs from a part timer is slim.
We held every chance that came our way and feel that maybe they did just get the chase totally wrong

SLA · « **Reply #68 on:** April 24, 2019, 09:51:14 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 24, 2019, 09:22:59 AM

A few of us were talking about. Sats game last night and this is what we decided must have been there plan. The team we played scored over 250 on 6 occasions last season with runs spread across the whole team. Our bowling is our strongest suit with a great mix of good pace upfront, medium swing in the middle along with 3 good tidy spinners so the opportunity to take a few overs from a part timer is slim.
We held every chance that came our way and feel that maybe they did just get the chase totally wrong

When I started playing 20 years ago, the tactic of sending out 2 blockers to see off the new ball for 15 overs was pretty common, following by 15 overs of knocking it around and 15 overs of desperate slogging.

Fielding teams got wise to it and put up a couple of patsy openers and then held back their better bowlers for the death.

Nowadays the modern way is to have at least one batsman attacking throughout the innings.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #69 on:** April 24, 2019, 11:10:16 AM »

Quote from: SLA on April 24, 2019, 09:51:14 AM

When I started playing 20 years ago, the tactic of sending out 2 blockers to see off the new ball for 15 overs was pretty common, following by 15 overs of knocking it around and 15 overs of desperate slogging.

Fielding teams got wise to it and put up a couple of patsy openers and then held back their better bowlers for the death.

Nowadays the modern way is to have at least one batsman attacking throughout the innings.

Remember those games as well, along with time games 20 overs from 6:30pm

AJ2014 · « **Reply #70 on:** April 24, 2019, 11:55:40 AM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on April 20, 2019, 07:27:30 PM

First league game of the season today for us. So we were at home in a new league after 3rd straight promotion last year and played a local rival who have been mid placed in this league for the last few seasons. Lost the toss and we were asked to bat. Pitch was good for time of year, with a little pace and carry (our track is generally a batting pitch with good pace and decent, consistent bounce) we got off to a good start thanks to some loose early bowling being too full and we were 35-0 from 6 overs, they then dragged it back a bit and we went to drinks at 87-2. After drinks I managed to take 16 from the 1st over after drinks but introduction of spin slowed run rate down, I was finally out in the 37th over for 75, cutting to point. We ended 209-5 from our 45.

After what can only be described as early season greed for tea, we just had so much food from sandwiches, to home baked sausage rolls, onion barges, homemade cake pretty much anything you could think of we took to the field. 1st ball if there innings our opener removed middle and off stump from the ground with an unplayable Yorker, not sure if this then set the tone but unfortunately three innings was really poor with the other opener and No3 dead batting for 22 overs to be 42-1 at drinks. We then prized out brigadier block caught behind by yours truly and with and end open our young leggie who had come on leaps and bounds in the last 3 seasons picked up 3 wickets in an over. Some more middle order blocking resulted in us finally getting the last 2 wickets in the 39th over. A good workout for our bowlers but I’ll never understand the mindset of some players and teams in this format of cricket where it’s just win or lose.

Anyway a good start to my season as also conceded 0 byes and glove work felt really good. Finally used my GM kit after thinking I was going to go GN or Surridge this season, I went with the tried and trusted and my Noir Signature was superb so thanks Rob from Six sixes for another lovely GM

This happened once a couple of years ago, from the start they didn't try any shots, openers lasted 10-15 overs, then we got them down to 8 or 9 wickets down, they got their losing draw, it's frustrating,
But this is more likely to occur when other teams are 4 or 5 down

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #71 on:** April 25, 2019, 02:05:27 PM »

Decided to take a short 9 day break due to from the 4th of May if I can stay fit there are 61 games available for me till the end of the season made up of Saturday league Sunday's county over 50 s and evening midweek

Big Mac · « **Reply #72 on:** April 25, 2019, 05:56:23 PM »

Played a couple of friendlies so far, got 44 and 36 so I'm seeing the ball OK but I just need to work on my shot selection/be more selfish so I don't throw it away when there are big scores for the taking.

(Although if I'm being honest 44 and 36 are big scores for me, seeing as I've only ever scored a single fifty. But to hell with honesty, I want a hundred this season)

strang · « **Reply #73 on:** April 26, 2019, 06:07:16 PM »

1st game tomorrow for a new club. Hope to hold any catches.

thecord · « **Reply #74 on:** April 26, 2019, 09:16:10 PM »

First game for me tomorrow having had no nets whatsoever.
Should be interesting! And also pretty cold and damp by the looks of things...

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