Topic: world cup selection (Read 12921 times)

alexhilly1492 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 17, 2019, 10:16:00 AM »

squadf for pakistan ODIs:

as above but with Archer and Jordan as well

six and out · « **Reply #16 on:** April 17, 2019, 10:17:52 AM »

Quote from: alexhilly1492 on April 17, 2019, 10:13:26 AM

no archer,

morgan
ali
bairstow
buttler
T curran
denly
hales
plunkett
rashid
root
roy
stokes
willey
woakes
wood

i think plunkett is a lucky boy! id have taken archer over him, although that may change following the ODIs pre-world cup

If Archer performs it will change, you only have to hear the tone in Ed Smith - they are leaving it open to pick him.

�In line with ICC regulations, we have to name a preliminary squad of 15 for the ICC Men�s Cricket World Cup before April 23. However, all 17 players named in the Royal London ODIs against Pakistan can stake a claim to be in the final 15-man squad, finalised at the end of that series.

�The selection panel has been impressed with Jofra Archer�s performances in domestic and franchise cricket. He is a very talented and exciting cricketer."

As i said in a previous post, Morgan wants to look at him as a captain etc....

ppccopener · « **Reply #17 on:** April 17, 2019, 10:21:19 AM »

Quote from: six and out on April 17, 2019, 10:17:52 AM

If Archer performs it will change, you only have to hear the tone in Ed Smith - they are leaving it open to pick him.

“In line with ICC regulations, we have to name a preliminary squad of 15 for the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup before April 23. However, all 17 players named in the Royal London ODIs against Pakistan can stake a claim to be in the final 15-man squad, finalised at the end of that series.

“The selection panel has been impressed with Jofra Archer’s performances in domestic and franchise cricket. He is a very talented and exciting cricketer."

As i said in a previous post, Morgan wants to look at him as a captain etc....

yes looks that way....this is probably the right way to do it....I think like lots of others Archer will make the final squad. It's pro sport at the end of the day-someone will miss out if England get Archer in, that is the nature of selection in crunch tournaments,which this most certainly is.

six and out · « **Reply #18 on:** April 17, 2019, 10:37:57 AM »

Yes i think we have been lucky enough to have the full Pakistan series as warm ups before we need to name the final squad, so Morgan can see Archer up close as a captain etc.... and against the others who would not get selected.

It also give more time for us to assess how 'injured' Woakes is.

Mpt7 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 17, 2019, 11:18:16 AM »

I can't believe it - the ECB have managed this situation well.

he comes in, bowls rockets, the squad get to know him and then they finalise him in the squad. easy work!

ppccopener · « **Reply #20 on:** April 17, 2019, 11:41:57 AM »

haha heaven help us the selectors get right

some of us wont have anything to post on here if it carries on

petehosk · « **Reply #21 on:** April 17, 2019, 12:58:32 PM »

The selectors have named the 15 to be loyal to them, as they have worked hard to make England the No1 ODI side over the last couple of years.
Unless Archer has 2 nightmare matches, then I'll be surprised if they don't include Archer in the final cut!

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2019, 04:08:09 PM »

Good to see Plunkett performing at domestic level before the tournament.
7 overs 0-67 today

Jordansh · « **Reply #23 on:** April 17, 2019, 05:38:58 PM »

After alls said and done - I think the selectors have gone about this the right way.

That�s being said, I�ll be very shocked if Archer�s not in the squad come the final squad

Think Plunkett, Willey or Wood will be the man to miss out

potzy248 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 17, 2019, 06:48:30 PM »

�In line with ICC regulations, we have to name a preliminary squad of 15 for the ICC Men�s Cricket World Cup before April 23. However, all 17 players named in the Royal London ODIs against Pakistan can stake a claim to be in the final 15-man squad, finalised at the end of that series.

Whats the point of picking 15 then if you can change it? Might as well pick 17 with two to be omitted.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #25 on:** April 17, 2019, 09:17:23 PM »

Quote from: edge on April 16, 2019, 02:05:29 PM

Can't see that Woakes could possibly be under threat given he's been our first choice seamer over the last several years?

Daft not to pick Archer in my view. 1-10 pick themselves and 11 is probably now Wood. Hales as spare bat plus Denly/Dawson leaves 2 spots. Incumbent contenders are Willey and Curran, both specialists in their 5 overs at the end of the innings but never complete 10 overs. Given Archer covers opening swing, pace for the middle overs and death bowling, how could you not pick him ahead of one of those? The 'tight-knit squad', 'these are the players who got us here' type arguments look pretty daft when Tom Curran's only played 13 ODIs and Denly/Dawson even less. Unless Archer is poor against Ireland/Pakistan then he's an obvious pick.

Regardless of Archer woakes looking back at the last 2 ODI series is no longer the first choice seamer his place is under threat now he's sorted his run up and if he can stay fit from Mark Wood also his bowling has not been in recent series consistent. Also Gurney Curran and Archer were the seamers bought for the 2019 IPL series whereas woakes who had been sold previously for big bucks remained unsold. As the squad being tight that's not the case nine of the squad are nailed on but are lacking a 90 mph bowler who is not a one trick Pony.

LateBloomer · « **Reply #26 on:** April 17, 2019, 10:03:56 PM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on April 17, 2019, 09:17:23 PM

Regardless of Archer woakes looking back at the last 2 ODI series is no longer the first choice seamer his place is under threat now he's sorted his run up and if he can stay fit from Mark Wood also his bowling has not been in recent series consistent. Also Gurney Curran and Archer were the seamers bought for the 2019 IPL series whereas woakes who had been sold previously for big bucks remained unsold. As the squad being tight that's not the case nine of the squad are nailed on but are lacking a 90 mph bowler who is not a one trick Pony.

You are lying to yourself. Woakes is the first seamer on the teamsheet.

Bwcc · « **Reply #27 on:** April 17, 2019, 10:30:26 PM »

The grumpy old git continues to bash Woakes
Woakes gets in ahead of at least Curran/ Plunkett/ Willey and probably wood as well
So what if he didn�t get an ipl gig? Morgan went unsold too but I doubt you�re suggesting leaving him out
A seam attack of stokes Woakes archer and wood is better than any other combination

edge · « **Reply #28 on:** April 18, 2019, 06:10:22 AM »

Archer strolls into the squad most likely, the difficult bit will be where he gets in the side - England's seam attack has got a really nice balance to it lately. Unless Plunkett has a pretty shocking drop in form I don't see him being left out, he's been so good at the middle overs role during the past few years. Similarly Woakes opening up (also massively underrated contribution batting at

, struggled with injuries recently but England have shown he's their first choice seamer. Wood bowled himself into the team in the West Indies so if he keeps bowling that way it's hard to leave him out too, suspect if Archer comes in it'll be more down to form as to who he replaces.

six and out · « **Reply #29 on:** April 18, 2019, 07:17:15 AM »

The issue we have is we don't have 2 death bowlers. I mean Rashid did it a couple of times in the WI but that can't be a permanent solution in England on WC pitches. We have all seen that Stokes isn't a death overs bowler! Plunkett bowls the middle overs. Willey bowls the new ball overs. That leaves Wood, Woakes and Curran in the squad. Woakes has shown he can do it, Wood has no previous experience and Curran is a specialist at it but would he genuinely get in the team anyway?

It all points to needing Archer at the end of the innings with probably Woakes.

These pitches will probably be roads and I think it will be the best bowling attack that wins it, much like the Champions Trophy that Pakistan won here.

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