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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2019, 11:43:51 AM »

Going to be interesting selection but considering they have said that Archer, Foakes and Malan are debuting then you have to think that Duckett will be playing the T20 only.

Denly
Vince
Root
Morgan
Malan
Foakes
Willey
Archer
Plunkett
Rashid
Curran or Jordan

Yep that's the team - Duckett and Jordan miss out.

Malan is down to open though and Denly bat at 5.

Delay for rain - 45 overs a side now - start at 12.45.
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2019, 12:30:22 PM »

Decent start by Ireland here, be a good workout for some of these England fringe players I reckon today. Archer with decent pace so far as well.
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2019, 12:46:17 PM »

Archer has looked sharp live

Curran looks quicker in person too!
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2019, 12:48:55 PM »

Can anyone make a legitimate case for not having Curran in the starting XI for the World Cup?
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2019, 01:05:03 PM »

Can anyone make a legitimate case for not having Curran in the starting XI for the World Cup?

He plays for Surrey? Other than that no  :D
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2019, 01:08:42 PM »

Roy
Bairstow
Root
Morgan
Butler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Archer
Wiley
Rashid
Agree with this squad, they have to have 2 spinners, think Sam Curran will get a chance as well
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2019, 01:36:03 PM »

Nothing wrong with it; raise your foot and you ask for trouble.

Best keeper in the country, fight me
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2019, 01:36:41 PM »

Foakes in with a keepers Mankad ;)
Yep assume the anti-mankad brigade are all livid at Foakes' poor sportsmanship there ;)
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2019, 01:48:13 PM »

Foakes in with a keepers Mankad ;)

Some soft dismissals so far


Honestly, it looked like a dead ball to me. Batsman didn't overbalance, he didn't set off for a run, nothing was happening, ball was in keepers gloves, he started to stand up, clearly thinking the ball was dead.

If he had overbalanced, he's fair game. But he didn't. Keepers can't just stand there with the ball forever waiting for the batsman to leave the crease otherwise we'd have a stumping every time something went to prod the pitch.

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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2019, 01:51:30 PM »


Honestly, it looked like a dead ball to me. Batsman didn't overbalance, he didn't set off for a run, nothing was happening, ball was in keepers gloves, he started to stand up, clearly thinking the ball was dead.

If he had overbalanced, he's fair game. But he didn't. Keepers can't just stand there with the ball forever waiting for the batsman to leave the crease otherwise we'd have a stumping every time something went to prod the pitch.

It was about 5 seconds hardly forever,
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2019, 02:22:20 PM »

It was about 5 seconds hardly forever,

I think 5 seconds is more than enough time for the ball to have become dead.
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2019, 03:07:14 PM »


Honestly, it looked like a dead ball to me. Batsman didn't overbalance, he didn't set off for a run, nothing was happening, ball was in keepers gloves, he started to stand up, clearly thinking the ball was dead.

If he had overbalanced, he's fair game. But he didn't. Keepers can't just stand there with the ball forever waiting for the batsman to leave the crease otherwise we'd have a stumping every time something went to prod the pitch.

But it was OK for Ashwin to stand there and watch Butler move out of his crease according to you
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2019, 03:34:21 PM »

But it was OK for Ashwin to stand there and watch Butler move out of his crease according to you

I have no problem with what Ashwin did, nor what Foakes did from a moral point of view - if its in the laws then its in the spirit is my approach.

However in both cases, albeit for different technical reasons, I think the player paused too long and the ball became dead, and thus the decision should have been "not out"
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2019, 03:37:20 PM »

With the replay just having popped up again it did look like he was shifting weight to stand up having seen the ball be taken... but it did all happen very quickly in fairness...

yeah, I'm 100% sure the batsman thought the ball was dead and he was clear to get up and prod the pitch/whatever without the risk of being stumped.

In all honesty, if this happened when I was square leg umpire in a club match I'd have said nice try but not out.
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Re: England Vs Ireland and Pakistan
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2019, 03:39:02 PM »

yeah, I'm 100% sure the batsman thought the ball was dead and he was clear to get up and prod the pitch/whatever without the risk of being stumped.

In all honesty, if this happened when I was square leg umpire in a club match I'd have said nice try but not out.

You'd say not out even though you've just said its in the laws.... So you'd cheat?
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