Topic: Is it A Myth That Red Balls Swing More Than White Balls? (Read 5229 times)

InternalTraining · « **on:** September 27, 2019, 04:29:06 PM »

Whenever I face a red ball in the nets, I get the feeling that it swings more than a white ball. Based on a handful of discussion I have had with fellow clubbies, they share similar stories.

Does a red cricket ball swing more than a white ball? Is it a myth?

Are red balls manufactured differently compared to white cricket balls?

What do you guys think?

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #1 on:** September 27, 2019, 04:55:15 PM »

Red balls are dyed.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #2 on:** September 27, 2019, 04:59:08 PM »

^ You mean leather is dyed red whereas white balls are painted white on top ?

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #3 on:** September 27, 2019, 05:19:56 PM »

I think so.

Jaffa · « **Reply #4 on:** September 27, 2019, 07:26:54 PM »

Was chatting to someone who's into aerodynamics and he says the magnus effect has more to do with the seam than the colour of the ball.

Also a swing bowler said pink balls reverse swing earlier than red balls. Go figure.

Gurujames · « **Reply #5 on:** September 27, 2019, 08:08:39 PM »

I thought that was a given. Isn�t that white ball cricket is just hit through the line?. The white ball swings for the first2 overs if you�re lucky. A well looked after red ball can swing into 40? Overs.

alexevo94 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 27, 2019, 08:19:05 PM »

Quote from: Gurujames on September 27, 2019, 08:08:39 PM

I thought that was a given. Isn�t that white ball cricket is just hit through the line?. The white ball swings for the first2 overs if you�re lucky. A well looked after red ball can swing into 40? Overs.

Think Jason Roy will agree with you 😂😂

Mfarank · « **Reply #7 on:** September 27, 2019, 10:13:52 PM »

Quote from: alexevo94 on September 27, 2019, 08:19:05 PM

Think Jason Roy will agree with you 😂😂

Damn you beat me to it 😂😂

edge · « **Reply #8 on:** September 28, 2019, 08:37:42 AM »

Quote from: Jaffa on September 27, 2019, 07:26:54 PM

Was chatting to someone who's into aerodynamics and he says the magnus effect has more to do with the seam than the colour of the ball.

Magnus effect would be drift, rather than swing, but yes aerodynamics is not affected by colour! 'Red' balls don't swing more than 'white' balls. Depends on the ball - seam, lacquer/wax etc. Also swing more or swing longer?

Jaffa · « **Reply #9 on:** September 28, 2019, 09:22:37 AM »

Quote from: edge on September 28, 2019, 08:37:42 AM

Magnus effect would be drift, rather than swing, but yes aerodynamics is not affected by colour! 'Red' balls don't swing more than 'white' balls. Depends on the ball - seam, lacquer/wax etc. Also swing more or swing longer?

Good question. My understanding is the Magnus effect is the amount of turn in the air I would suppose you could term as swing. I thought drift was the effect of revs on the ball from a spin bowler which would be due to the seam clawing at the air to travel further or dip with topspin. Not saying it is all due to the seam but even looking at a ball in your hand you'd say the seam is the main ingredient.*

*This is coming from a leggie who also uses the rough side to help the ball turn more.

Chompy9760 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 28, 2019, 10:39:00 AM »

Quote from: Jaffa on September 28, 2019, 09:22:37 AM

Good question. My understanding is the Magnus effect is the amount of turn in the air I would suppose you could term as swing. I thought drift was the effect of revs on the ball from a spin bowler which would be due to the seam clawing at the air to travel further or dip with topspin. Not saying it is all due to the seam but even looking at a ball in your hand you'd say the seam is the main ingredient.*

Magnus effect does not require a seam. Bowling ball machines have no seam, but they swing because of the spin on a vertical axis (magnus effect). The exact same thing that a spinner would call 'drift' or 'dip'

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #11 on:** September 28, 2019, 11:20:33 AM »

When you consider how much everyone knows/ thinks they know about the manufacture of cricket bats, you'd think they'd be more knowledge about the manufacture of cricket balls?

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 28, 2019, 01:02:53 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on September 28, 2019, 11:20:33 AM

When you consider how much everyone knows/ thinks they know about the manufacture of cricket bats, you'd think they'd be more knowledge about the manufacture of cricket balls?

This is CustomBats.
I'm not brave enough to Google "Custom Balls" as there could be some horrendous results...

FattusCattus · « **Reply #13 on:** September 28, 2019, 06:01:22 PM »

I swing all my balls.

NT50 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 28, 2019, 06:54:59 PM »

Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on September 28, 2019, 01:02:53 PM

This is CustomBats.
I'm not brave enough to Google "Custom Balls" as there could be some horrendous results...

I've met loads of lovely men over at custom balls forum! Not sure why none of them have girlfriends, they seem lovely!

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