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England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« on: December 03, 2019, 09:29:39 AM »
With the NZ tour now over we look towards a winter in South Africa.

As in the NZ thread there a lots of question marks for england but for the first test i would like to see:

Burns
Sibley
Denly
Root
Stokes
Pope
Buttler
Woakes/Curran
archer
leach
broad

Excluded Foakes as it wont happen and im not sure if Jimmy will be fit

leach comes in for curran and or woakes depending on what root and co fancy

Other players that should tour:

Anderson (if fit)
Crawley
Bairstow/Foakes
Parkinson/ a spinner
Mahmood

this is based on who we took to NZ mainly
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2019, 09:44:36 AM »
Same squad plus Anderson in for Mahmood and add Foakes in as reserve keeper for me. Possibly add Wood for one of Woakes/Curran but who knows how his fitness will be.

Not been very impressed with Root talking about Moeen a lot in the interviews, bet poor Jack Leach is feeling cheerful...
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2019, 11:13:55 AM »
Where has he mentioned Mo? i saw he was asked about Mo in the interview with sky not seen it anywhere else.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2019, 11:42:18 AM »
Interesting interview with Atherton who talked about there only being about 22 tests until the Ashes in Australia - therefore if you are going to go with the likes of Sibley and/or Pope then you must stick with them all the way through so they have a number of tests under their belt or we have no hope in Oz. Which is why the talk of Jennings playing (on the NZ thread) is ridiculous - 7 of the 22 matches are on the Sub continent. Are you going to deprive our possible Ashes opener 7 out of the 22 tests before the Ashes?

Tests before the Ashes -

SA (away) 4 matches
Sri Lanka (away) 2 matches
West Indies (home) 3 matches
Pakistan (home) 3 matches
India (away) 5 matches
India (home) 5 matches


Regards the SA series - Anderson, Wood and Bairstow are already in SA - all will be in the squad - fitness dependent of course

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/50546746


So the squad looks like this -

Burns
Sibley
Denly
Root
Stokes
Pope
Buttler
Woakes
Leach
Archer
Anderson - fitness dependent

Broad
Bairstow - spare batter and keeper
Wood - fitness dependent
Curran
Mo - dependent if he is available for selection

It will be an interesting series because SA at the moment are in a period of transition and in just as much trouble as us both on and off the pitch
 
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2019, 12:15:00 PM »
Jennings is being considered for the Sri Lankan tour as Sibley has considerable work to do playing spin bowling.

The SA trip will be the same as for NZ, but as mentioned will likely include Bairstow as spare batter plus Anderson and Moeen.

I would add that this is a massive tour for England. We have been poor for a very long time. The SA team is weak too, but like the Eng team there are some stronger players in the mix.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2019, 12:33:33 PM »
Burns
Sibley
Denly
Root
Pope
Stokes
Buttler
Moeen
Archer
Broad
Anderson

Backups:
Bairstow
Woakes
Leach
Curran
Crawley

I’d leave Wood at home. I don’t think you can trust him to stay fit. He’s a great asset on his day, but those days are far too few.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2019, 12:46:21 PM »
As a squad, I'd go:

Sibley, Burns, Denly, Root, Bairstow, Pope, Buttler*, Malan, Stokes, Leach, Curran, Archer, Anderson, Broad, Wood, Mahmood, Virdi

*well, technically, I would leave Buttler at home and take Foakes, but that's not happening.

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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2019, 12:52:16 PM »
I would probably take the same squad for this tour with Anderson, Wood and Foakes included; think Curran and Woakes will be the ones who will make way for the quicks as far as a starting XI is concerned

For all this tour of the Saffers being poor they're still much like any other side, stronger in their own backyard
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2019, 02:40:54 PM »
I am hoping SA continue the tradition of forcing England captains to resign, so Root can go back to scoring runs  :D
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2019, 12:32:01 PM »
As feared, Bairstow is back in the squad. Great to have Anderson back though, with any luck Jofra can now be used properly as first change
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2019, 12:41:18 PM »
The scariest thing is that BBC have Ollie Pope listed as a wicket keeper  :(
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2019, 12:47:00 PM »
Wood selected despite not being fit for the beginning of the tour. What’s the point picking him?
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2019, 12:57:45 PM »
Bleurgh. Drop Bairstow over extended poor form, pick him again before he's even played a red ball game. What's the point? Criminal that he's been picked over Foakes. At least they didn't pick Moeen.
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2019, 01:07:30 PM »
Looks like they saw Moeen but he made himself unavailable.
Not clear if Bairstow is selected just as a batsman?
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Re: England Tour of South Africa, Test ODI and T20
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2019, 01:29:08 PM »
Bairstow will be the spare keeper and had been in South Africa on the fast bowlers workshop clearly working on his game

Those who saying not wood he bowled one of the most exciting spells I've ever seen live in the Caribbean and is a class act

Bowling attack of Anderson broad wood and Archer with leach is one id genuinely go out of my way to watch!
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