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WalkingWicket37

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Re: What’s the most aggressive sledge you’ve received?
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2020, 10:08:03 AM »
@SLA ah yes, the sensible option to prevent the entire sport from being destroyed would be to ban a load of players for life, how foolish of everyone not to see this...
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2020, 11:59:49 AM »
You couldn't even begin to try and enforce that sort of approach.

Most leagues are struggling for people to fill the basic positions like league reps, secretary etc let alone have a panel that's going to spend time keeping an eye on how many strikes a player has had.
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Re: What’s the most aggressive sledge you’ve received?
« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2020, 12:27:47 PM »
Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on January 15, 2020, 10:08:03 AM
@SLA ah yes, the sensible option to prevent the entire sport from being destroyed would be to ban a load of players for life, how foolish of everyone not to see this...

Better to kick out a handful of psychopaths now, rather than let them drive away dozens upon dozens of casual players.
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2020, 01:55:50 PM »
I'm not sure the majority of them are "psychopaths". Large man-babies who need to have it explained to them where to draw the line is probably more accurate for most. Reasonable sanctions like a ban for a couple of games wouldn't hurt in some cases though.
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2020, 02:29:00 PM »
Quote from: Jimbo on January 15, 2020, 01:55:50 PM
I'm not sure the majority of them are "psychopaths". Large man-babies who need to have it explained to them where to draw the line is probably more accurate for most. Reasonable sanctions like a ban for a couple of games wouldn't hurt in some cases though.

Indeed - we have to remember that abusive opposition behaviour is cited as the number 1 reason why people give up the sport. At a time when player numbers are collapsing and clubs and leagues are disappearing at a rate of knots, we can't just turn a blind eye to this.
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #35 on: January 15, 2020, 02:49:16 PM »
Quote from: SLA on January 15, 2020, 02:29:00 PM
Indeed - we have to remember that abusive opposition behaviour is cited as the number 1 reason why people give up the sport. At a time when player numbers are collapsing and clubs and leagues are disappearing at a rate of knots, we can't just turn a blind eye to this.

Is there anything to back this statement up at all?

The general consensus has been people give up because 8 hours is a long time, games finish too late and people have better things to do on a Saturday, hasn't it?
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #36 on: January 15, 2020, 02:57:06 PM »
Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on January 15, 2020, 02:49:16 PM
The general consensus has been people give up because 8 hours is a long time, games finish too late and people have better things to do on a Saturday, hasn't it?


Cheating, poor sportsmanship and abusive behaviour is certainly a catalyst for people feeling disillusioned with the game, but I dont' think opposition behaviour is main reason for people dropping out of the game at all.

It's the amount of time it takes to play the game - Certainly that way for me and everyone else I know, especially those like myself with kids.
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2020, 04:15:43 PM »
Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on January 15, 2020, 02:49:16 PM
Is there anything to back this statement up at all?

The general consensus has been people give up because 8 hours is a long time, games finish too late and people have better things to do on a Saturday, hasn't it?

Yes, it was the result of a survey that was widely discussed by the cricketer magazine.

Can I just politely point out how antagonistic and aggressive your post was?
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #38 on: January 15, 2020, 04:17:08 PM »
Quote from: jamesisapayne on January 15, 2020, 02:57:06 PM

Cheating, poor sportsmanship and abusive behaviour is certainly a catalyst for people feeling disillusioned with the game, but I dont' think opposition behaviour is main reason for people dropping out of the game at all.

It's the amount of time it takes to play the game - Certainly that way for me and everyone else I know, especially those like myself with kids.

Again - this is the result of a large survey of amateur cricketers featured in the cricketer magazine. Fair enough if you have a different experience, but anecdotes do not trump actual data.
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #39 on: January 15, 2020, 04:22:02 PM »
On a purely anecdotal basis, I've heard a lot more people stepping back because of the time commitment. Much more common complaint in football that it's down to opposition behaviour than in cricket.

Saying that, it's a large part of why I switched sports so it's not something I'd want to lose about recreational cricket.
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2020, 04:26:28 PM »
Quote from: SLA on January 15, 2020, 04:17:08 PM
Again - this is the result of a large survey of amateur cricketers featured in the cricketer magazine. Fair enough if you have a different experience, but anecdotes do not trump actual data.

would be very interested in reading that feature, have you got a link to the article please?
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2020, 04:33:50 PM »
Quote from: dt-second-hand-cricket on January 15, 2020, 04:26:28 PM
would be very interested in reading that feature, have you got a link to the article please?

I'm afraid I don't keep a detailed log of every article or feature I've ever looked at, no. Perhaps I should.

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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2020, 04:37:00 PM »
Quote from: SLA on January 15, 2020, 04:33:50 PM
I'm afraid I don't keep a detailed log of every article or feature I've ever looked at, no. Perhaps I should.

sorry if my question upset you, i was only asking if you had a link to the article as i would be interested in reading it, again i apologise for any insult you took from my question
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2020, 04:40:50 PM »
Quote from: dt-second-hand-cricket on January 15, 2020, 04:37:00 PM
sorry if my question upset you, i was only asking if you had a link to the article as i would be interested in reading it, again i apologise for any insult you took from my question

No - sorry - it didn't at all - I was just lamenting my inability to find old articles on the internet. It would be genuinely useful to have some kind of system!
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Re: What�s the most aggressive sledge you�ve received?
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2020, 04:43:23 PM »
Quote from: SLA on January 15, 2020, 04:40:50 PM
No - sorry - it didn't at all - I was just lamenting my inability to find old articles on the internet. It would be genuinely useful to have some kind of system!

no worries
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