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[kibbs_11]

Does this one have a splice? It looks like it does on the pics... therefore im going to make a comparison to the mongoose once again, they developed the idea without a splice the whole blade would be the hitting are, where as i persume this one doesnt hit quite of well from the top

[Tom]

It looks to have a short splice, I would guess the reason Charlie didn't put the whole splice in the handle as it may infringe on Mongooses designs. But with a full splice the blade would become pretty useless, so short splice in the blade short splice in the handle was the best way to do it.

IMO it's not too different to anything else and doesn't look too revolutionary (although we only have a few pics). Credit where it's due though, it takes some balls to come out with a T20 bat priced very similarly and of a very similar appearance to the best marketed cricket product. So good luck to Black Cat.

[roco]

So what you got cooking for next year tom any hints

[SillyShilly]

Should have released it then Tom!

Kibbs - I would guess that whilst a splice is visible, the bat is longer therefore it would have either an identical hitting area to a mongoose. The best thing to do is go to a shop and pick them both up, have a look at them and assess and compare them - personally i think there is little comparison.....i will be using one of these as my match bats this year

[SillyShilly]

Credit where it's due though, it takes some balls to come out with a T20 bat priced very similarly and of a very similar appearance to the best marketed cricket product. So good luck to Black Cat.

Best marketed - yes.
Best selling - no.

[jandgcricket]

Also available in G3 at a decent price.

I like this alot

[Black Cat Cricket]

I'll pop up some photos in two seconds.

Tom is right, there's a shorter splice, it goes a tiny bit into the handle, but not much.  (Obviously the splice isn't what is unique about the Joker)

It doesn't look too revolutionary, but when you pick one up and have a hit with it (bearing in mind the bat on the website weighs 2lb 8.5oz...) you can't understand how it works.  Hopefully Pete and Rich will be able to convey this.

[Vantage Cricket]

So it's a conventionally shaped/looking mongoose basically?

[Black Cat Cricket]

Bit disappointing really, had been talked up when it's really no different to anything else on the market. Retailers had said it was similar to a Mongoose to us, didn't think it would be this similar.

Pleased in a way, as I had been worried he'd got onto the design we have in the pipeline for 2011...

Retailers said it was similar to the Mongoose (it's a cricket bat, how different can they all be?!), but they almost all said it is a far better product than the Mongoose.  More usable (and I think powerful, but I'm looking to get that scientifically confirmed) than the MMi3, and a better shape (far bigger profile for the weight) than the Cor3...

[Black Cat Cricket]

So it's a conventionally shaped/looking mongoose basically?

Not really, if you take a Mongoose and a Joker of the same weight, the Joker will offer a much larger profile, (and a fuller length blade if you're comparing it to a MMi3).

[peplow]

Not really, if you take a Mongoose and a Joker of the same weight, the Joker will offer a much larger profile, (and a fuller length blade if you're comparing it to a MMi3).

Is this just because the willow is dried more?

I will admit it looks impressive, but loving my cor atm so would need something special to budge that out of my bag!

[Buzz]

Charlie - are you doing a forum discount on the G3 model, it might be quite tempting...!

[Liam-SCCC]

Pictures? Can't get on the website,

[Vantage Cricket]

I prefer this to the mongoose as i like the shape and how it's more of a conventional bat. Direct competition for the mongoose can't hurt ey.

Good luck with it.

[peplow]

Can i sk about bat dimensions (blade length) in comparison to cor3 and mmi?? Looks in between but obviously i odnt have a scooby on it!