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[Liam-SCCC]

Ok, thanks Tom. Clearer now.

[Tom]

I may have had an unbound unfinished bat at Taunton, did I show you? We often take it along to shows to show how it's done.

[Liam-SCCC]

No, I just saw the standard MMi's and the Stuart Law bat

[Talisman]

I do not know what the trick is for the Joker, but I will find out by the end of the week. I have heard a lot about the Lekka 20/20 bat and think it is very similar to the Joker, have not ordered one but may do so after I've tried the Joker. May well be the same principle, after all you have had one made, what were the dimensions and weight Tom?

I have one idea which I have often thought about, I won't say what it is as if it is not being used I'll save it for my own.

[will5210]

How was Law's different? And how different is Haydens to a shelf bat?

[petehosk]

Will - please read the topic and the heading. If you want to know more about the mongoose, then go to a mongoose section?

[Liam-SCCC]

Only differences I saw with a small look was a worn grip and a peeling anti scuff! I didn't really spot any differences but I had had a quick look. The bats picked up lovely though, a lot better than expecting!

[Tom]

Hayden's and law's are no different to shelf bats. Hayden is using a shelf bat at the moment (by shelf I mean one of the 45 Ltd Editions shipped from England to India for launch)

I haven't had an exact replica of the Joker made, we did a 5cm shorter bat. You will see when I made the comment regarding dimensions Charlie had only mentioned about the height, he had kept quiet about width.

Suprised you don't know more Mike, thought with your UK manufacturing contacts you'd have come across one.

[Liam-SCCC]

Ok, sorry Pete.

I think it will be difficult to keep mongoose out of Joker topics. The comparison will always go on!

[will5210]

Will - please read the topic and the heading. If you want to know more about the mongoose, then go to a mongoose section?

Yep, sorry for meandering off course

[carn69]

i think it just looks like a size 6 but a big one u get me

[Vantage Cricket]

I made a bat, very similar to the Joker today. Though the face was standard width. I don't think there is anything fancy done with the willow, just light clefts. It says on the B.C website that they are the only people in the UK with there own dedicated supply of willow from there own tree's so there would be decent light bits of wood in there. I may be wrong but perhaps we shouldnt be so cynical about it.......

[Howzat]

It says on the B.C website that they are the only people in the UK with there own dedicated supply of willow from there own tree's

Didn't Charlie say he would change this when was told a few months ago this was untrue?

How did your "Vantage Joker" turn out Dan, would love to see some pics

[Vantage Cricket]

i dont know if its true or not, just went from what i saw on site, have never seen any different. It came out fine, the same as a the B.C. It's coming to Malta for some slogging fun and will stay there too.

[norbs]

The Joker is a well made bat, the credit should be with the bat maker and foresight to have over sized willow clefts created for usage with the bat.   Robert Pack is doing a 60mm edge bat on his blue room bats, for godsake, so the willow is available

The width of the bat isn't overly thin and I would say it isn't/wasn't that noticeable unless you see bats day in day out.  When you look down the handle it isn't noticeably shorter either.  There are no tricks with the willow it is simple a great idea and very well made.

Sometimes you have to stick your hands up a say "Well Done" for something that has been brought to the market, that is surprising, not overly gimmicky, talked about with passion and works. That is what we have here in the Joker.