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Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« on: February 05, 2020, 04:57:18 PM »

With all the subjective viewpoints on here... and being a big fan of GMs 606/Signature/808s. Also have seen some very nice Kooks (albeit on IJC youtube channel)...

Got me thinking who do people think are the most generous companies when it comes to grading?
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2020, 05:10:51 PM »

With all the subjective viewpoints on here... and being a big fan of GMs 606/Signature/808s. Also have seen some very nice Kooks (albeit on IJC youtube channel)...

Got me thinking who do people think are the most generous companies when it comes to grading?

Don’t Kookaburra downgrade any willow with heartwood? I know they used to.

GM is pretty good - they are clear with their gradings and stick to it.

GN might be the worst...
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2020, 05:23:00 PM »

Do you mean generous as in over - or under- graded?

For a mainstream company I've always been a bit disappointed with GN grading, at least the UK made ones.
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2020, 05:58:51 PM »

my 'grade 4' kook and my GM Siren 404 are more of a looker than my g1 kippax, so I'd say Kook/GM
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2020, 06:17:53 PM »

GM are the most generous that I have come across
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2020, 06:51:27 PM »

I would say that Neon are pretty good with their grading, they keep it simple and don’t take the mick
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2020, 07:01:53 PM »

Have to say in the last few years GM have been quite generous on their customers - a lot of their grainiest bats have been at 909 and 808 rather than the supposed 1+++ levels.  Also, I'd offer a word for Keeley.

Most generous in the other direction?  Well, I've not been impressed, as many have said, by recent GN ranges' grading, nor with a lot of the stuff Newbury have produced since TK departed.
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2020, 07:03:28 PM »

Do you mean generous as in over - or under- graded?

For a mainstream company, I've always been a bit disappointed with GN grading, at least the UK made ones.

As in their lower grade bats are quite nice looking and could pass for a higher grade by some other brand. Yup, it does look like Kook downgrade heartwood IMHO from what I have seen, but I'd just get a well known Indian brand instead of a Kook...
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2020, 07:03:42 PM »

For what you would class as the bigger brands I would go with GM, for the "smaller" brands, from what I have had it would have to be Keeley, some of the G3's are stunners. On the flip side of this the Keeley G3 bats are more money than some of the G3's elsewhere. Its a bit swings and roundabouts in some cases.

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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2020, 07:38:19 PM »

Most generous I think are certainly GM and also Salix some stunners from Salix in my time owned and worked on that have been downgraded for the tiniest mark etc.

GN are certainly the worst overall, can get some stunners when companies handpick or get lucky but seen some awful prestige bats and players bats. Although I believe all are now graded at Robertsbridge my two oblivion stealth’s are lovely for just over £110 each
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2020, 07:55:27 PM »

GM of the modern bats would be up there if you look at the 909 or even sometimes an 808 would have even straight grains and sometimes 10 plus.

Overall grading of quality I agree with Soulman, absolutely Salix, don't know whether they still do but you could buy from the farm seconds, but when I say seconds I mean bats filtered out for marks, tiny dents in production etc,etc.
These would of been grade 1 and 2 easily.

I've not seen that level of perfection in manufacturing before and it's only the customer that benefits.

I'm a big fan of Salix so maybe a bit biased, TK made Newbery bats also. Back a few years Newbery only had 3 grades of wood

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My own view is there should only be this few grades. 1 for the best, a grade 2 next or a grade 1 maybe with imperfections,and then a 2/3 grade.

I'd love to know why now there are about 5 grades supposedly-not sure I believe it myself, I think it's just marketing blurb.
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2020, 08:48:35 PM »

GN’s seem to be better for this years range, we have had a couple of stunners in recently in low and medium grades

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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2020, 09:39:43 PM »

GM of the modern bats would be up there if you look at the 909 or even sometimes an 808 would have even straight grains and sometimes 10 plus.

Overall grading of quality I agree with Soulman, absolutely Salix, don't know whether they still do but you could buy from the farm seconds, but when I say seconds I mean bats filtered out for marks, tiny dents in production etc,etc.
These would of been grade 1 and 2 easily.

I've not seen that level of perfection in manufacturing before and it's only the customer that benefits.

I'm a big fan of Salix so maybe a bit biased, TK made Newbery bats also. Back a few years Newbery only had 3 grades of wood

SPS
player
5 star.

My own view is there should only be this few grades. 1 for the best, a grade 2 next or a grade 1 maybe with imperfections,and then a 2/3 grade.

I'd love to know why now there are about 5 grades supposedly-not sure I believe it myself, I think it's just marketing blurb.

In terms of Salix you still can, been there today seeing Andrew and having a new bat made and it’s from a seconds cleft to match my budget for bats. Review and pics to follow but he has some stunning willow at the moment
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2020, 11:37:15 PM »

Interesting to see that I'm not the only one...

Salix has always been a brand I've liked very classy..but yet to try.

Finally got a TK bat (although in a lower grade MightyWillow), love the handle shape.

I keep saying I'm going to get a Salix but price always puts me off...
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Re: Most Generous Bat Grading Company
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2020, 12:18:43 AM »

How's the mighty willow knocking up? Mine's starting to open up a bit. Found the toe area quite hard at first. Middle was always OK. Got some surface cracks at the nets from a thick edge. Slightly annoying. Should have knocked the edges in more.
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