Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
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Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« on: April 10, 2020, 12:41:48 PM »

I'm sure that some of you will have seen this already, but this just popped up on my YouTube recommendations.

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Stuart Kranzbuhler from Gray Nicolls Australia talks through the bat making process at our factory in Melbourne, with Australia stars Beth Mooney and Jess Jonassen.

https://youtu.be/-pAqIO-a3Mo
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2020, 02:42:52 PM »

Quality video, enjoyed watching. Not sure GN are the only maker going through the whole process from start to finish though  :o
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2020, 02:49:37 PM »

I think he means growing all the way through shaping and selling, which, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think they are the only aus maker to do it.
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2020, 02:50:12 PM »

I'm sure that some of you will have seen this already, but this just popped up on my YouTube recommendations.
https://youtu.be/-pAqIO-a3Mo

Found it really interesting to see the tape used on the handle is like a plaster tape and not fabric strapping style tape
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2020, 03:09:36 PM »

GN-AUS is growing their own "English" willow in Australia?
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2020, 04:17:23 PM »

Do they not grow their own, process and grade at robertsbridge then ship the clefts?
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2020, 05:10:01 PM »

Do they not grow their own, process and grade at robertsbridge then ship the clefts?

That's what I meant yeah as far as I know
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2020, 05:11:38 PM »

Gn oz made bats are another level
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2020, 05:38:17 PM »

Fortunately I’ve got 5 now  ;) the giant isn’t as good as the other 4 but it was a lot cheaper
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2020, 08:39:37 PM »

What makes gn aus bat's better than uk ones?
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2020, 11:21:11 PM »

Aside from the novelty factor (big bats, unique shapes, & pingtastic bats for pro players), GN-AUS/Kranzie made bats are just too expensive. For a bang (or ping) for your buck, Keeleys are far better value. On top of that, there is no guarantee that a Kranzie would last long. And, that's true even for Kranzies used by Pros - too dry some say.
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2020, 11:52:51 PM »

Aside from the novelty factor (big bats, unique shapes, & pingtastic bats for pro players), GN-AUS/Kranzie made bats are just too expensive. For a bang (or ping) for your buck, Keeleys are far better value. On top of that, there is no guarantee that a Kranzie would last long. And, that's true even for Kranzies used by Pros - too dry some say.

I would argue most brands top grade bats are too pricey

RRP wise the top offerings are similarly priced, at aud 1200 for the legend, and GBP 550 for the Keeley superior. Whilst the lowest grade offerings start at Aud 329 for the GN Giant and GBP 240 for the Keeley Worx 17, so I don't think the bang for the buck for either brand is necessarily better than the other.

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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2020, 12:02:13 AM »

I would argue most brands top grade bats are too pricey

RRP wise the top offerings are similarly priced, at aud 1200 for the legend, and GBP 550 for the Keeley superior. Whilst the lowest grade offerings start at Aud 329 for the GN Giant and GBP 240 for the Keeley Worx 17, so I don't think the bang for the buck for either brand is necessarily better than the other.

Retail, yes. Probably. :)

I got a new grade-1 Keeley last year. I won't say how ( :D ) because there will be a stampede but it was more than reasonably priced (read: cheaper than RRP), pingtastic, and cleared the rope (long side) on the first outing with little knocking. Here is the difference, GN-AUS whether thru a retailer or direct will cost an arm and a leg - they just don't budge on the price. For Keeleys, you can get cheaper deals if you look around; that's point 1 to Keeley. Second point is that Keeley do last. I have yet to hear about someone's Keeley breaking in nets but Kranzie's can be over dried - especially those meant for pros. That's point number# 2. Keeley 2, Kranzie 0.

So for clubbies like myself, who are saving their pennies to grab the best (left over bats after pros have had their pick) from the good bat makers out there, Keeleys offer a better value even for his 2nd/3rd tier bats.
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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2020, 12:49:20 AM »

Retail, yes. Probably. :)

I got a new grade-1 Keeley last year. I won't say how ( :D ) because there will be a stampede but it was more than reasonably priced (read: cheaper than RRP), pingtastic, and cleared the rope (long side) on the first outing with little knocking. Here is the difference, GN-AUS whether thru a retailer or direct will cost an arm and a leg - they just don't budge on the price. For Keeleys, you can get cheaper deals if you look around; that's point 1 to Keeley. Second point is that Keeley do last. I have yet to hear about someone's Keeley breaking in nets but Kranzie's can be over dried - especially those meant for pros. That's point number# 2. Keeley 2, Kranzie 0.

I got 40% off my Aus GN from a bricks and mortar store, it is also pingtastic, it has even cleared the rope once or twice (lack of rope clearing definitely being user error). The demand for them is high, there's usually not many left in stores come sale times for the Australian market, these and more are factors in the prices being consistent for them,  which follows on to my next point.

In regards to costing an arm and a leg, I think they are priced fairly in respect to the market, which from an Australian perspective, is pretty limited in terms of retailers, so there are far less people at the table trying to get a slice of the pie, hence fewer specials and less deals to be had. But there are absolutely still deals to be found if you're looking in the right places at the right times. And with Aus made bats at $329, $399 and $449 Ect...they are already priced very fairly in my opinion.

On your second point, pro bats aren't exactly made to last, and it's not really fair to generalise on both accounts, from my experience the one Keeley I've had was overpressed and a bit lifeless, my Aus made GN has been through at a guess 35 games + 2 training sessions a week over the last two years, and I use it on bowling machines and is a cannon and aside from some toe feathering, it's in as good condition as the day I purchased it, that doesn't mean all Keeley's are planks or that all Aus GNs are guns, these are just our experiences, and naturally they will influence our opinions, which are both valid.






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Re: Inside the Gray Nicolls factory in Australia
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2020, 02:35:34 AM »

Keeley bats are incredible bits of Willlow and I will have 3 in my bag for whenever we do play next. However I have a Kranz which is 2.10 feels 2.8/9 with 50ish mill edges and pings like nothing else I’ve got. For me it’s the fact I know this bat cannot be replicated anymore. Am I saying it’s better than a pro keeley ? Not for a second, am I saying it’s better value...... no way. Although I did get a very very good deal on mine. For me the kranz has a wow factor I know cannot be replicated. Especially now oversized clefts are a thing of the past.

Would I get a standard sized kranz over a keeley...... probably not....

If you have or have picked up an oversized kranz. You’ll know what I mean
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