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skyblueglu

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Bat Weight Reduction
« on: May 12, 2020, 05:16:37 PM »
Good Afternoon All,

Due to having a bit more spare time on my hands at present; I have decided to dig out a bat that I bought from Online Stockist a few years ago that was sold to me a 2lb 9.5oz but realistically its was closer 2lb 14oz.

It was a rather big bat, so I have got plenty of room to remove some weight.

My tools are limited and I dont want to spend loads; I have a vice; and I also have a flat, concave and convex spokeshave's.

I have done some reading and seen that a Random Orbital Sander seems to be the tool of choice but it is probably a bit above my price range for a single bat weight reduction.

I have seen Drum Sanding Kits that go into a drill, these are considerably cheaper and i was thinking of using a 50mm maybe bigger if i can find one to take a bit more weight out and to then sand the bat.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
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Gurujames

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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2020, 05:23:07 PM »
A plane and therefore a spokeshave is considered a finishing tool. This does assume that it is correctly set and sharp.
With the tools you have you should be able to remove the weight you want.
Any sanding can be done by hand, it just may take a little longer. To be fair, you only need to sand a small piece of timber with no obstructions or fiddly bits so it’s an easy job.
Good luck
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2020, 11:54:59 PM »
as long as your convex spokeshave is sharp you should be good to go. Set it so you're not taking to much wood out to start off. Ive rolled up an old tee shirt and taped it up to use with sandpaper when I want to sand into a concaved bat.
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2020, 12:09:17 AM »
Sorry to hijack the topic but i have a really nice and big pro bat at 211 with a mid low middle(ss profile) and convex profile that picks its weight and i wanted it to get to 2 10 and pick a little lighter than it's dead weight.

What's the best way to get it done and how much wood will the bat lose. Bat is roughly 41 42 edges and 70 spine
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2020, 05:20:23 AM »
Doesn’t quite address the point, but it’s worth looking on eBay for a random orbital sander. I recently bought one - didn’t want to spend lots of money, but didn’t want something that would break quickly. I picked up a Bosch for about £20 posted. Not the greatest brand, but better than plenty, no box or anything, but that’s not a problem. I also have the drill bit drum sander attachments and, whilst they’re handy, the lack of power compared to a dedicated sander means that they’re only really suitable for very small areas.
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2020, 06:17:33 AM »
Quote from: Ajdal on May 13, 2020, 12:09:17 AM
Sorry to hijack the topic but i have a really nice and big pro bat at 211 with a mid low middle(ss profile) and convex profile that picks its weight and i wanted it to get to 2 10 and pick a little lighter than it's dead weight.

What's the best way to get it done and how much wood will the bat lose. Bat is roughly 41 42 edges and 70 spine

If its full then you'll get weight out quite easily without sacrificing too much. However if it's a lovely bat I'd advise to take it to a batmaker and have it done right. Difficult to advise without seeing/feeling it I think. You could end up spoiling the bat and it wouldn't be expensive to get it done right.
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2020, 08:14:43 AM »
Quote from: Ajdal on May 13, 2020, 12:09:17 AM
Sorry to hijack the topic but i have a really nice and big pro bat at 211 with a mid low middle(ss profile) and convex profile that picks its weight and i wanted it to get to 2 10 and pick a little lighter than it's dead weight.

What's the best way to get it done and how much wood will the bat lose. Bat is roughly 41 42 edges and 70 spine

If it's as big as you say 2/3mm off in most places will easily take it down to your desired weight without effecting performance.  Take it to someone who knows what he's doing it will be well worth it
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2020, 08:43:46 AM »
@Neon Cricket have a special on bat refurbs at the minute, check them out.
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2020, 08:51:43 AM »
 @Ajdal Personally, having done a fair few weight reductions through my club, I find it amazing how much 1oz of wood actually is. Definitely doable, if it's as big and full as you say, but as everyone has said here, I would send it to someone that knows what they are doing and knows how to balance a bat.

@skyblueglu
5oz of wood is an incredibly large amount to do, you'd need to add a good amount of concaving, reduce the edge size and spine height, probably reduce the shoulder and the toe. People don't realise how much wood 1oz is, let alone 5 ounces. To put it into perspective. The two clefts I have just shaped up from John at Red Ink weighed 4lb and 3lb 11oz. The lighter cleft now fully shaped into a bat still weighs 2lb 9oz, so from raw cleft stage to finished bat it has only lost 1lb 2oz, which is 18oz.

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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2020, 08:55:21 AM »
Thanks all, all my tools are pretty much brand new; so should be sharp enough.

I have made a few dents but as its my bat, im not too worried.

I may go and look to see if I have a mouse or some form of sander at my parents; if not i shall wait for something to come up on ebay.

Ive got some more shaving to do yet before i get to sanding; so ive got a bit of time.

Once done, i may look to post some pictures.

Thanks
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2020, 08:56:30 AM »
Quote from: skyblueglu on May 13, 2020, 08:55:21 AM
Thanks all, all my tools are pretty much brand new; so should be sharp enough.

I have made a few dents but as its my bat, im not too worried.

I may go and look to see if I have a mouse or some form of sander at my parents; if not i shall wait for something to come up on ebay.

Ive got some more shaving to do yet before i get to sanding; so ive got a bit of time.

Once done, i may look to post some pictures.

Thanks

Good luck!
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2020, 11:18:47 AM »
take some pics now then post both pre and post reduction.
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2020, 10:09:39 AM »
Hi All,

What is the best way to upload images?

New to this.

Thanks
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2020, 04:03:02 PM »
postimages.org is the hosting website most use these days - just copy and past the code after you've uploaded your image.
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Re: Bat Weight Reduction
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2020, 01:15:32 PM »
Many Thanks.

Please see my refurb / weight reduction below.

So I bought the bat from Online Stockist almost 4/5 years ago as a spare bat for a fairly cheap price. As soon as it arrived it was far too heavy for my liking so it just got left in the shed.

I asked for a bat that was 2lb 9 oz but what I got was a bat that weighted over 2lb 14oz (which is roughly 2.9 as a decimal).

Here are 4 photos of the bat when I bought it. It was a huge bat; I think it had a 65mm spine and 45mm edges.









After some work with my basic set up; I had a vice, 3 spoke shaves (Convex, Concave & Flat) and some sand paper I got to work.

The bat now weights 2lb 10.5oz with 2 grips and this is in line with the bats i use anywhere from 2lb 9oz - 2lb 11oz.

As you can see its got a decent number of grains, that widen up as you look at it from right to left.



I took my weight from the spine and the edges; the edges are now 38mm but still make for a good sized bat. The spine has reduced no idea on the new height of the spine.



I also took a decent bit of weight out of the toe.



The one problem I had was this knot in the side of the wood; my shaves just seemed to jump over it.



Overall I'm rather pleased; of course there are a few diverts where i jammed the shaves but as its my bat i fairly pleased


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