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alexhilly1492

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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1110 on: August 23, 2020, 05:42:10 PM »

absolutely village! I love it!

Wouldn't want to be anywhere near Jimmy right now
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1111 on: August 23, 2020, 06:11:36 PM »

You wonder what it’s like in the dressing room after, do they have a laugh about it or stay silent...

I don’t think ‘ Unlucky  Jimmy with those 3‘ would be appropriate
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1112 on: August 23, 2020, 06:14:58 PM »

What happens now.. does Azhar have to open the battery Ng as he hasn't faced a ball? I would assume Abid can swap again

I remember in st Lucia stokes was out and broad (I think) was already out in the middle but hadn't faced a ball, they realised it was a no ball and they swapped back
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1113 on: August 23, 2020, 06:29:57 PM »

Pretty sure Azhar has to open now he’s crossed the line

But there’s loads of rules in the game that rarely come up  :)
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1114 on: August 23, 2020, 06:32:17 PM »

Pretty sure Azhar has to open now he’s crossed the line

But there’s loads of rules in the game that rarely come up  :)

I thought that but seeing the stokes thing in the Carribbean has made me wonder, I believe the rule is the batsman before you has to face a ball until your called back... No idea about opening the batting though

Chances are Azhar will want to open and bat all day again!
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1115 on: August 23, 2020, 08:39:55 PM »

I thought that but seeing the stokes thing in the Carribbean has made me wonder, I believe the rule is the batsman before you has to face a ball until your called back... No idea about opening the batting though

Chances are Azhar will want to open and bat all day again!

For openers it's when the umpire says 'play' so as that hasn't happened yet Azhar doesn't have to open tomorrow.

All other batting positions it's when you enter the field of play.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1116 on: August 23, 2020, 08:48:36 PM »

There has been a lot of scrutiny over Butler's keeping which was well below standard in one test, but the standard of catching in the cordon has been awful all summer.  One can't question the time and effort that the modern player puts into fielding practice when part of an international squad.  From an England perspective, we can only hope that with a lot of new batsmen at the start of their international careers, it is simply a case of taking time to improve the standard of catching  from what you can get away with in the County Championship to where it needs to be in the Test arena
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1117 on: August 23, 2020, 09:07:24 PM »

Law 25.2 states that the innings of the opening batsmen only start at the call of Play, which didn't happen tonight. For other batsmen, it's when they enter the field of play.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1118 on: August 23, 2020, 09:16:29 PM »

There has been a lot of scrutiny over Butler's keeping which was well below standard in one test, but the standard of catching in the cordon has been awful all summer.  One can't question the time and effort that the modern player puts into fielding practice when part of an international squad.  From an England perspective, we can only hope that with a lot of new batsmen at the start of their international careers, it is simply a case of taking time to improve the standard of catching  from what you can get away with in the County Championship to where it needs to be in the Test arena

You're right it hasn't been great over the series. The drops looked bad today but I think if your making a judgement late on today the light needs to be a consideration.

I'm not making excuses for us but I think what happened is we played on a  bit longer when the light was dubious because the umpires had criticism of earlier bad light  stoppages.

Before someone pipes up I've played in a club match where we turned the car headlines on and still played....the ball must be coming at you in a flash in the slips off test bowlers and any bad light would be made worse. It also looks like the slips are closer because the pitch is slow.

I actually think at first slip-Root- we have caught pretty well.
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« Reply #1119 on: August 23, 2020, 09:50:56 PM »

You're right it hasn't been great over the series. The drops looked bad today but I think if your making a judgement late on today the light needs to be a consideration.

I'm not making excuses for us but I think what happened is we played on a  bit longer when the light was dubious because the umpires had criticism of earlier bad light  stoppages.

Before someone pipes up I've played in a club match where we turned the car headlines on and still played....the ball must be coming at you in a flash in the slips off test bowlers and any bad light would be made worse. It also looks like the slips are closer because the pitch is slow.

I actually think at first slip-Root- we have caught pretty well.

I agree, Root has been very solid this summer but the rest have been consistently poor across the summer.  It is doubly disappointing as they have been playing in empty grounds with banks of white seating to pick up the ball against.  One can appreciate that when you are playing in full  grounds, the background to pick up the ball can be challenging but there are no excuses this year
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1120 on: August 24, 2020, 03:05:40 AM »

I agree, Root has been very solid this summer but the rest have been consistently poor across the summer.  It is doubly disappointing as they have been playing in empty grounds with banks of white seating to pick up the ball against.  One can appreciate that when you are playing in full  grounds, the background to pick up the ball can be challenging but there are no excuses this year

You can count the number of great slip fieldsman around the world right now on one hand.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #1121 on: August 24, 2020, 07:10:14 AM »

I think we’re just a bit unlucky that the guys who happen to have grabbed the batting spot at the moment aren’t really particularly good fielders in general. Neither Burns, Crawley or Sibley looks particularly athletic, not that that is everything or proves anything.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1122 on: August 24, 2020, 07:37:00 AM »

Give Sibley his due, he's looked far better in the field since he lost that weight. Few bits of seriously good fielding from him this series that he wouldn't have been pulling off if he was 12kg heavier.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1123 on: August 24, 2020, 07:51:17 AM »

Give Sibley his due, he's looked far better in the field since he lost that weight. Few bits of seriously good fielding from him this series that he wouldn't have been pulling off if he was 12kg heavier.
Indeed but he’s still not exactly a Collingwood 😬
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #1124 on: August 24, 2020, 10:01:16 AM »

Dropped one or two, wasn't helped by Crawley getting in his way. Burns has dropped, what, four?
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