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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #840 on: August 06, 2020, 06:18:18 PM »
Slightly bitter interview from archer - Glad holding told it how it was.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #841 on: August 06, 2020, 06:58:19 PM »
Quote from: csnew on August 06, 2020, 06:18:18 PM
Slightly bitter interview from archer - Glad holding told it how it was.

What did he say?
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #842 on: August 06, 2020, 07:29:24 PM »
Quote from: billyb on August 06, 2020, 06:58:19 PM
What did he say?

Said it wasn’t the surface to bowl quick which holding disagreed
Also had a slight pop at the pak quick
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #843 on: August 06, 2020, 08:26:31 PM »
Quote from: SD on August 06, 2020, 06:00:52 PM
Really enjoyed watching a session of really high quality bowling but from and England perspective only Stokes got out of a decent ball.  Burns and Root got out to dreadful shots

Not sure walking down the wicket to your second ball allows you to claim it was a top nut.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #844 on: August 06, 2020, 08:48:55 PM »
No shame getting out to high class bowling. Pope was a revelation- superb counterattack. This is going to be a fantastic series.
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Re: England�s international summer
« Reply #845 on: August 06, 2020, 09:18:00 PM »
Seems like archer is finding this Test cricket business a whole lot tougher than what he’s been doing in recent years. Test vs T20 is totally different. Archer’s been making millions bowling 4 overs per match. Plenty of breaks between T20 leagues.

His comments don’t seem to suggest he’ll be around the red ball scene for too long
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #846 on: August 06, 2020, 09:25:40 PM »
jos needs 112 min to redeem the drop from Masood tomorrow but god knows how many his keeping has cost England in this game.

There is no chance Foakes could be any worse over 41 tests with the bat than Butler Avg of 31 and his keeping is average at best in red ball cricket.

Not sure our batting is strong enough to ever leave a batter out for a bowler at the moment
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« Reply #847 on: August 06, 2020, 09:27:43 PM »
Would you rather have Ballance, Crawley or Lawrence at 3? Answers on a postcard  :D
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #848 on: August 06, 2020, 09:37:19 PM »
Quote from: billyb on August 06, 2020, 09:27:43 PM
Would you rather have Ballance, Crawley or Lawrence at 3? Answers on a postcard  :D

Crawley or Lawrence don’t think personally there is much between them. From match reports and some reports etc from Key and Trott when he was the Kent batting coach Crawley plays spin very well by all accounts
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #849 on: August 06, 2020, 09:43:47 PM »
Quote from: Jeff Navarro on August 06, 2020, 09:18:00 PM
Seems like archer is finding this Test cricket business a whole lot tougher than what he’s been doing in recent years. Test vs T20 is totally different. Archer’s been making millions bowling 4 overs per match. Plenty of breaks between T20 leagues.

His comments don’t seem to suggest he’ll be around the red ball scene for too long

Yep....and it would be no surprise. There is something I can't put my finger on with Archer, it could be he needs a bit of special handling, perhaps his laid back personality does not come across as wanting to put in 100 per cent for the team, perhaps he thinks he's a gun player....

I dunno..I don't think anyone can be top pace over a days play but if he wants a quick wicket before he does bowl at top pace he will be waiting a long time playing in England.

I don't see Wood having that mentality or the Pak bowlers brought up on slow batting tracks.

Something is a bit off...
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #850 on: August 06, 2020, 09:51:20 PM »
Quote from: ppccopener on August 06, 2020, 09:43:47 PM
Yep....and it would be no surprise. There is something I can't put my finger on with Archer, it could be he needs a bit of special handling, perhaps his laid back personality does not come across as wanting to put in 100 per cent for the team, perhaps he thinks he's a gun player....

I dunno..I don't think anyone can be top pace over a days play but if he wants a quick wicket before he does bowl at top pace he will be waiting a long time playing in England.

I don't see Wood having that mentality or the Pak bowlers brought up on slow batting tracks.

Something is a bit off...
Maybe his nose has been put out of joint by becoming second fiddle to Anderson/Broad.
Especially as in the Ashes he opened the bowling.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #851 on: August 06, 2020, 09:59:56 PM »
I agree that there is something a little odd with Archer. Might do well with a sports psychologist... I'm not sure putting him for interviews while he is so green & brash is the best management from the ECB. He is special but he won't be for very long if he doesn't get the right management.

He could be a great or he could go the way of Alex Hales, Jessie Ryder and co. KP had his troubles too. I'd wonder if Archer might benefit from advice from senior players or ex-pros from a similar background to him as opposed to the privately-educated, white majority in and around the set-up. I know I would respond better to someone who shared my background or experiences.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #852 on: August 06, 2020, 11:49:51 PM »
Didn't see anything wrong with Archer's interview personally.  Seems fairly straightforward that you would bowl according to the conditions with the aim of taking wickets rather than the aim of registering as fast as you can on the speed gun.
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #853 on: August 07, 2020, 02:32:11 AM »
Does anyone have a link to this archer interview?
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Re: England’s international summer
« Reply #854 on: August 07, 2020, 05:52:08 AM »
I don't get it, why are people so quick to get on Archer's back? One innings where he doesn't bowl at the speed of light and he's getting compared to Jesse Ryder and Alex Hales?!

Thought he came across pretty well in the interview, pretty mundane end of play stuff? Seems fair that he'd bowl according to his assessment of conditions, although I thought his assessment of the innings was off the mark. Root hasn't got a clue what to do with him so he's clearly left to think for himself.
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