Topic: Teas after COVID-19 (Read 30120 times)

Jimbo · « **Reply #90 on:** November 30, 2020, 03:17:43 PM »

Quote from: SLA on November 30, 2020, 03:09:50 PM

If you're struggling to pay for your pitch upkeep, are you aware that most county boards have equipment they will lend you for a nominal fee? We used to borrow a scarifier every October and a heavy roller every April. I think it cost �50 for the weekend.

Interesting as that is, unfortunately not an option up here in Scotland. My club is really fortunate that we have regular volunteers who do a lot of work keeping the pitch in order and a sponsor who provides a roller for use each season. Without those we'd probably incur some pretty significant costs on top of the maintenance fees paid to the local council as we play on a public park.

alba caerulea · « **Reply #91 on:** November 30, 2020, 03:33:02 PM »

Quote from: SLA on November 30, 2020, 03:17:12 PM

What on earth are you doing for 50 hours a week? All you have to do is cut it, roll it and paint the lines, and then maybe cut and roll next week's pitch for it to start to dry out. Are you sure you're making the best use of your time?

Well I have previously given you a list in this thread. We do all those things. Plus verticutting & draining. Maintaining the surround of the outfield etc. Between 40 and 50 per week is minimum required just to maintain standards let alone improve them.

I think your last comment tells me all I need to know about the standard of your ground and the cricket you play.

ppccopener · « **Reply #92 on:** November 30, 2020, 03:42:34 PM »

Quote from: SLA on November 30, 2020, 03:17:12 PM

What on earth are you doing for 50 hours a week? All you have to do is cut it, roll it and paint the lines, and then maybe cut and roll next week's pitch for it to start to dry out. Are you sure you're making the best use of your time?

Your propensity to resort to personal insults says far more about you than it does about about anyone else.

Do you have a web link to your club so we can see pictures of the ground/square.
That might assist, there is clearly a huge difference between your outlay and some of the rest of us
It may help physically seeing it.

thecord · « **Reply #93 on:** November 30, 2020, 03:57:49 PM »

Blimey, this one has drifted!

LockieEP · « **Reply #94 on:** November 30, 2020, 04:06:53 PM »

Just to let you know that now there is going to be a re-vote on the topic of teas in 2021, due to some issues of numbers voting on the night and I think the fact it made BBC news. Will keep you posted - our club will still support the idea of no teas (at league games) in 2021.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #95 on:** November 30, 2020, 04:18:01 PM »

Quote from: SLA on November 30, 2020, 03:17:12 PM

What on earth are you doing for 50 hours a week? All you have to do is cut it, roll it and paint the lines, and then maybe cut and roll next week's pitch for it to start to dry out. Are you sure you're making the best use of your time?

Your propensity to resort to personal insults says far more about you than it does about about anyone else.

Can we all please stop giving this member our time and thoughts and then maybe just maybe he will go away.

SLA · « **Reply #96 on:** November 30, 2020, 06:32:22 PM »

Quote from: Grubby on November 30, 2020, 06:22:43 PM

Are they doing teas after covid-19?

Depends what the league decides. I think we'd vote to scrap teas and just have a 10 minute turnaround and simply have drinks and biscuits on hand throughout the game.

LEACHY48 · « **Reply #97 on:** November 30, 2020, 07:11:15 PM »

Quote from: SLA on November 30, 2020, 04:36:28 PM

Yes mate, its average club cricket at an average cricket club. Like most people here play for.

If you want a specialist semi-pro forum for cricketing heroes I suggest you try somewhere else.

I volunteer a lot on our ground, doing maybe 8-10 hours a week by myself. Our head groundsman and his team are there day in, day out, probably doing 35-40 hours a week. Our deck is very good, as is our outfield, but it isn�t the best in the area.

You need to flood the pitch, cut at least 3x, roll for hours, paint the lines, mark the 30 yrd circle, cut the outfield, mark the boundary, put in the stump holes, water the outfield and that�s just for one strip/ game. If you factor in repairs, seeding, top dressing, spiking, and scarification, then suddenly it�s looking impossible to do in 8-10 hours or whatever you said he spends on it.

I�ve played at one ground previously, where the groundsman said he put in 5 hours of work a week, and the outfield and deck were absolutely pony.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #98 on:** November 30, 2020, 08:47:34 PM »

Off the original topic but I was just speaking to our groundsmen about a different matter but thought I would ask out of interest how many hours per week he spends on our wicket and outfield alone. His response was approximately 40hours per week from sometimes 6am (he lives 25yrds) from the club gates. If he wants to water the pitch for a few hours in peak summer before the sun is on it all day. He also mentioned the outfield needs cutting at least twice a week to keep it at a level he is happy with and that�s about 6-8hrs alone

SD · « **Reply #99 on:** December 01, 2020, 01:27:13 AM »

The only way you are playing 40-50 home games a season on the back of a groundsman doing 6-8 hours a week is if you are playing them all on an artificial wicket.

SLA · « **Reply #100 on:** December 01, 2020, 09:18:41 AM »

Quote from: SD on December 01, 2020, 01:27:13 AM

The only way you are playing 40-50 home games a season on the back of a groundsman doing 6-8 hours a week is if you are playing them all on an artificial wicket.

I think I've been pretty unambiguous - its a regular grass wicket - he prepares and maintains several club's wickets and still plays senior minor counties at the weekend. Obviously he couldn't do this if he was spending 30+ hours on each, could he?

On a more general note, I think you all need to ask yourself why you feel the need to go on the internet and argue with people about how their club is run, something you can't possibly know anything about. You just look like a bunch of cranks.

I don't argue about how your clubs are run, or make childish, snobby remarks about the standard of club cricket below the ECB premier league levels, so why don't you show the same level of respect for other forum users?

edge · « **Reply #101 on:** December 01, 2020, 09:56:13 AM »

Keep it civil please folks. Different clubs spending wildly different amounts of time on pitch prep really shouldn't be a surprise, much less something to get upset about.

KettonJake · « **Reply #102 on:** December 01, 2020, 10:45:10 AM »

Quote from: SLA on November 30, 2020, 03:17:12 PM

What on earth are you doing for 50 hours a week? All you have to do is cut it, roll it and paint the lines, and then maybe cut and roll next week's pitch for it to start to dry out. Are you sure you're making the best use of your time?

What club do you play for?

t2ylo · « **Reply #103 on:** December 01, 2020, 11:45:47 AM »

A quick calculation from me if anyone is interested.

Cut outfield 2hrs twice a week
Cut square 2hrs twice a week
Roll square 2hrs
Prepare match day strip 2hrs midweek & 1hr on match days (inc next strip)
Cut and mark boundary 1 hr
Repairs, watering & 40 yd circle 2hrs
Edges, hedges & around the nets & pav 2hrs
Generally faffing around with fuel, things breaking, opening up and locking up at least 1hr

We are a very village club and I would say 18ish hours a week - normally shared between the same 2 or 3 people.

Same people also end up sorting teas - so to bring it back to topic I�m happy to bring my own food and have a traditional tea for showpiece games only.

SLA · « **Reply #104 on:** December 01, 2020, 12:06:30 PM »

Quote from: t2ylo on December 01, 2020, 11:45:47 AM

A quick calculation from me if anyone is interested.

Cut outfield 2hrs twice a week
Cut square 2hrs twice a week
Roll square 2hrs
Prepare match day strip 2hrs midweek & 1hr on match days (inc next strip)
Cut and mark boundary 1 hr
Repairs, watering & 40 yd circle 2hrs
Edges, hedges & around the nets & pav 2hrs
Generally faffing around with fuel, things breaking, opening up and locking up at least 1hr

We are a very village club and I would say 18ish hours a week - normally shared between the same 2 or 3 people.

Same people also end up sorting teas - so to bring it back to topic I�m happy to bring my own food and have a traditional tea for showpiece games only.

ok, sensible post, but now adjust for:

the council cut the grass, not the groundsman
we don't have a 40 yard circle (not required in our league)
we have a boundary rope, not a line.
groundsman has no responsibility to maintain the pavilion, the hedges or the mobile net. As I've explained, he just does the square.

According to your numbers, I make that 9 hours per week actually working on the pitch- so we're completely in agreement.

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