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jamielsn15

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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2020, 08:40:08 AM »
Dropped for 2006 home series vs Sri Lanka  back for the Pakistan series same summer. Then for the 2009 West Indies series  as mentioned, back mid way through Ashes series.
Give me a player who responds to being dropped twice to have the career he did from 2009 onwards anyday. Many have folded and faded after being dropped twice.
You don't fluke 22 100s, 7k test runs and get carried or if you lack resolve, character and strength of mind. Not in elite cricket. Not in Flower's team. KP to this day calls him class and one of his favourite batting partners. Tendulkar has talked in high praise about him. Good enough for me
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2020, 11:26:13 AM »
Root is the only player we have better (average says so). Simple. The guy was a genuine test batsmen
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2020, 04:37:49 PM »
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2020, 04:42:21 PM »
Only twice then?

I didn't mention it to encourage the 'not much substance' fools.

Like Gower, he could be infuriating as well as majestic. We have to admit that, even as fans.
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2020, 04:45:51 PM »
He never went to public school.  :)
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2020, 04:46:31 PM »
Quote from: Jeff Navarro on September 10, 2020, 04:37:49 PM
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2020, 05:12:41 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on September 10, 2020, 04:42:21 PM
Only twice then?

I didn't mention it to encourage the 'not much substance' fools.

Like Gower, he could be infuriating as well as majestic. We have to admit that, even as fans.

I think that view tends to follow players who make it look easy then get out. Perhaps it seems careless. Gower often got out with no feet caught in the slips region...

Everyone gets out at some point whether they are blasted out or seem to play a carefree shot. KP got out reverse sweeping in a test match, looked awful and unnessasary, yet when he early on reversed Murali for 6 in a test we wondered how the hell he did that.

I admired Gower's batting and knew he could get out at any time, same with Bell. I'd watch both of them bat all day.
Test records of both have them up in the very good category, but the game is not all about stats  :)
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2020, 08:27:01 PM »
Plenty of style and plenty of substance. Pretty much all his peers rave about him - recently heard Shoaib Akhtar talking about how good he was at driving with the swing.
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2020, 08:27:26 AM »
Mmm Bell strangely was never my cup of tea and I couldn't put the finger on it but he was a top class England BATSMAN and has flashes of World class brilliance.

It funny how we see players I think he made the most of his ability and was strong mentally and expect him to be a top class coach.

Great career and a humble Decent person
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Re: Bell retires-style over substance?
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2020, 03:34:31 PM »
Always thought Bell suffered a bit in comparison to the level of hype he got, but then that was hardly his fault! If you were being churlish you'd say his career stats are a little flattering given he padded them out a bit with some heavy runs against 'weaker' teams, but you can't blame him for that either. Once he'd settled into a role at 5 rather than trying to live up to being the promised messiah at 3 he was awesome, and never less than enjoyable to watch. Should have bowled more :D
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