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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #30 on: November 25, 2020, 08:39:26 PM »

This might have changed now, but I’ve never come across substantially narrow CAs. The narrowest I have ever seen is 106.5, most others were 107. And same on the back as the front. I personally prefer full 108mm width, but when it comes to brands that make narrower bats, CAs seem way better than other culprits (including some UK manufacturers). Handles certainly “look” weird with five springs , but never had an issue with it performance. And in terms of ping, CAs are top tier.

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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #31 on: November 25, 2020, 09:41:45 PM »

He's the reason why..

We cut down a tree which is a living thing requiring water to grow, it now get stored for moisture to deduce and so does the weight of the bat. We now put the clefts into a metal container and send it to Pakistan and India. The heat inside the container removes a lot of moisture and weight. A bat is made from the willow in many occasions outside in what we in the UK would consider to be very hot, hotter than i would be in our front room with the heating on (somewhere we wouldn't store our bat in the winter!  It is then shipped back to the UK in the same containers again loosing weight.

When it gets back to the UK is will soak in as much moisture as it can but each bat will be different and therefore no matter what the weight sticker on the bat is it will never be the same in the UK!


I loved the ping on my CA 10,000 Plus. Didn't like the way it fell apart due to the dryness extra moisture it picked up while being back in Europe.
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2020, 11:12:56 PM »

Is there a pact to defend CA after Fakhar-gate melted the minds of Pakistan supporters :D

I don't know about this "Fakhar-gate" business; I am sharing my observations and experiences.

If I were to compare other bat makers to CA and the issues I've had, none of them would come out looking good.

Other than CAs, my Keeley bats have been pretty consistent - except for the brand new Newbery whose handle broke after 1 practice.
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2020, 11:34:01 PM »

@InternalTraining personally this for me is very important and is nothing more than a mindset thing. It’s why Iv never gone near Aus GN or kookaburra as they are often 103-105mm thing.

That's your choice and it is fine.

5 mm is 0.197 inches. Let's round it up to 0.2 inches. As a user, not a bat maker, I think it is nothing to worry about. It is 0.2 inches. 3mm is even less. :)

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Also I don’t see why tradition is holding the game back?? The wicket is still 22yrds long, ball is round and still weighs 5.75 ounces and overs have been for a very long while 6 balls in length.

The rules of the game are fine. I love them. Heck, if I could, I'd watch Test cricket all day. :D

My gripe about tradition is with regards to gear, especially bats. How is it that in 2020, there is no standardization for bat specs? There was a discussion about GM's pickup rating and I find it bizarre that there is no universally accepted standard for pickup.

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Bats are such a personal thing and to just come out and say basically that if a few mm are missing I need more friends I’m
Not sure what they are going to be able to do about my personal preference for a full width bat??
I meant it is not a big deal, didn't mean to say that am small army of new friends could help with missing mms. :D

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But like you seem a big fan of CA bats that’s fine as you like to be able to get the exact same profile across all the ranges just with a different to range of stickers that cover 75% of the blade is your preference

Here is my why I am so vocal about this. I must have dozens of almost brand new bats that never saw a match. From specs perspective, they are proper width, "nice handles", and by some standards nice stickers too. Grade 1 or higher. They were too stubborn to open up. Other than self-defense or firewood, these "proper" bats are pretty useless. People are very quick to criticize CA bats but , man oh man, do they ping! I have timed a many gentle pushes to boundary with old faithful CA. Batting is fun with a bat that pings and CAs do their job. Nit picking over little things seems silly to me when MOST bats by MOST batmakers fail to fulfill their primary purpose!
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2020, 11:55:11 PM »

You really think "most bats by most makers" aren't responsive or don't ping?
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #35 on: November 26, 2020, 12:02:04 AM »

You really think "most bats by most makers" aren't responsive or don't ping?

I'd certainly dispute this statement too! 😆
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2020, 12:12:54 AM »

I've owned, borrowed and used bats from - rough guess - 10 different bat makers and only one has been a real dud. Not going to pretend every one was a gun but I've had far more bats that were good performers and just didn't suit me than bats that didn't perform at all.
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2020, 12:13:25 AM »

You really think "most bats by most makers" aren't responsive or don't ping?

Playing devil's advocate I'd hazard a guess he probably means they are pretty responsive from the off and pretty consistent in that...

I guess people have good experiences with a brand and go back... am sure there's people on here who could say the same about other brands... 

What I would say is I've never had a bad CA and I know personally 2 people who used CA bats after using mine, but again I am sure there's people here with the same story and you can swap out CA for X other brand...

Having seen the CA Legend priced at 600 quid... there's no chance Id pay that much for one! Then again SS who also churn out a generic shape with sharpies sell 500+ quid bats ... it's what makes you happy...

Best bat I've ever had was Charlie French (bought in 2008 and is with a friend at the moment) and its the only Charlie French bat I've owned... therefore I have to say Every Charlie French bat I've had has been amazing... never had a bad one ;) I'm really at the point where I think I want a new bat from Charlie!



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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2020, 07:14:28 AM »

Best bat I've ever had was Charlie French (bought in 2008 and is with a friend at the moment) and its the only Charlie French bat I've owned... therefore I have to say Every Charlie French bat I've had has been amazing... never had a bad one ;) I'm really at the point where I think I want a new bat from Charlie!

My current CF is all but retired now after 5 years, still pings like a good un and wouldn't hesitate to get another.  Got lucky with this one as it was a cleft he had set aside for his nephew.

Charlie is definitely under appreciated on here, doubt there is many who can press a bat like he can
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2020, 08:33:27 AM »

Last time I saw a CA in the flesh it looked rather nice. So I checked it up against another bat... I'm not even sure it was big enough to be a Harrow! Ridiculous.
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2020, 09:34:01 AM »

@InternalTraining sorry to hear that your experience has been poor and that’s why I would argue it’s impossible to standardise the bat industry as to much is subjective.

I must have used somewhere from 50-75 bat brands since joining this forum which is almost a decade and i would say i have had 2 brands that failed to produce a bat that performed. I like to think of myself as a pretty decent club player and bat a fair amount of time and some take longer than others but to say how many brands have failed to do what was required i would say 2 from 50 at best. However one of those that i gave to someone else hit over 1200 runs that season with the bat i felt was a plank so its each to there own really
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2020, 10:26:00 AM »

The whole narrow width, or shorter than the "standard" - seems to be happening lots across many brands? SS Retro range? DSC bats?

I dont think its CA alone that may be missing a few mm?
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2020, 03:27:00 PM »

Here is a funny story about handles...

I bought a very nice looking Newbery from a forum member. The handle of the bat seemed "springy". The bat had a nice provenance so I thought that was by design. Again, bat was beautiful. About 1.5 years after buying the bat, I took it to nets and the handle broke. This was a BRAND NEW bat with an unblemished blade. The seller refused any responsibility and so did his dealer. I had to go to *ahem* bat maker to fix the handle and they were awesome to deal with.

Why would the seller or their dealer have any responsibility?
Bats usually come with a 12 month warranty, you've said this was 18 months after you bought it second hand.
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2020, 08:03:24 PM »

You really think "most bats by most makers" aren't responsive or don't ping?

I think his point is that many bats are pressed too firmly to provide an element of longevity for club players. He also seems to think that people are prepared to buy a new bat from the same make if it breaks which I'm less sure about. Certainly the 'knocked in' stickers on CA's are a joke I can't imagine using one against a new ball at decent pace.

I agree that many bats are too firmly pressed and need a good couple of seasons to 'come good'. I've got a couple of L&W Reserve's and a Keeley that don't get used because they are are too 'hard' and I haven't had the time to get them right. I sold an Aldred two seasons ago because it was taking forever to open up, but now my mate that uses it won't let it go because it's now an excellent bat. I suspect that many people would find this process frustrating and don't have the patience (me included) to get a bat to peak performance, whether softly pressed bats with a questionable life span is a viable alternative I'm not sure.
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Re: CA Legend Cricket Bat
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2020, 09:15:44 PM »

Surprised you've got a Keeley with a hard press. I've had a few and they were all at most a medium feel, the one I've hung on to opened up by the time winter nets were done.
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