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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2021, 03:53:04 PM »

Not to underestimate SL but they have just been thumped by SA, it's the conditions more than the oppo I think.

I'm not convinced this tour can be kept safe enough for the players but cricket boards are losing money/tv rights so the pressure is in to complete the tour. They might have to accomodate one or more players testive positive.

No one wants our(or their) players missing games thru illness of any sort but there does seem a way forward for Foakes to be back in the 11.

Can't believe there any many who say he does not deserve it. If we play 3 spinners, or Leach and the offie plus Root-we got to have the best keeper.
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« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2021, 05:22:41 PM »

It seems like Sri Lanka is going to be much more controlled; that being said, this tour followed by India equates to 10 odd weeks of a pretty gruelling schedule.

Interested to see how Crawley and Sibley go in these conditions, big big runs needed on the board...

I think Crawley will do well. I fear for Sibley starting against spin but hope im wrong
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« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2021, 05:37:02 PM »

I don't care about the team, I just want to see England play before I become a massive New Zealand fan!
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« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2021, 06:12:41 PM »

Crawley looked very accomplished against spin during the summer. Sibley is a worry.  He neither looked comfortable in defence or attack. 

Not sure that Ali's absence will give Foakes a better chance of playing.  Without Stokes and Ali as all rounders- and assuming that Butler will play - it seems to me that it will be harder to balance the side with a specialist keeper
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« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2021, 06:28:22 PM »

Crawley looked very accomplished against spin during the summer. Sibley is a worry.  He neither looked comfortable in defence or attack. 

Not sure that Ali's absence will give Foakes a better chance of playing.  Without Stokes and Ali as all rounders- and assuming that Butler will play - it seems to me that it will be harder to balance the side with a specialist keeper

If Foakes doesn't get in the final 11 I don't think we have enough batsmen, I'm thinking he opposite, with Ali out and Stokes out, no Burns....we need batting coverage... Unless I'm missing something.

Foakes as a specialist keeper....yes.....hes the best by miles, but also he's a good batsman too.
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« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2021, 06:50:27 PM »

If Foakes plays but doesnt keep wicket someone on that selection committee should be sacked immediately
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« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2021, 07:26:19 PM »

If Foakes doesn't get in the final 11 I don't think we have enough batsmen, I'm thinking he opposite, with Ali out and Stokes out, no Burns....we need batting coverage... Unless I'm missing something.

Foakes as a specialist keeper....yes.....hes the best by miles, but also he's a good batsman too.

My thinking is without Stokes or Ali we are short of a frontline bowling option but the balance of the side is always going to struggle without a genuine allrounder to balance out the side. This is what I would go in with but I would concede that without Pope or Stokes it does look light on the batting front

1. Sibley
2. Crawley
3. Lawrence
4. Root
5. Bairstow
6. Butler
7. Woakes
8. Bess
9. Wood
10. Broad
11. Leach
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« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2021, 07:33:00 PM »

Probably swap Bairstow and Lawrence on the basis that Lawrence would be bowling a fair few overs of spin potentially.
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« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2021, 07:59:05 PM »

Would I be wrong in assuming Woakes will miss the first game as a result of him being in isolation? Other than that the above side might not be far off the truth. But it’ll depend on the pitches. I think normally 3 seamers might not be important, but by all accounts in recent times the Sri Lankan pitches have offered a little more to seamers than in past times. It’s at times like this when you appreciate the balance you get from Stokes. If Stokes was there I suspect 2 front line seamers would be picked and either Foakes or another spinner would get the nod.
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« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2021, 08:02:23 PM »

Probably swap Bairstow and Lawrence on the basis that Lawrence would be bowling a fair few overs of spin potentially.

And hes on debut

And Bairstow, a senior player, had runs at 3 last time he played in SL. Time for him to step up, plenty of chances in the Test arena now
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« Reply #70 on: January 06, 2021, 08:39:33 PM »

And hes on debut

And Bairstow, a senior player, had runs at 3 last time he played in SL. Time for him to step up, plenty of chances in the Test arena now

Looking ahead, when Pope and Stokes are back, 4-6 Looks fixed so 3 is the most obvious route into the team.  I would prefer to see Lawrence given a go on this tour in that position. 
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« Reply #71 on: January 06, 2021, 08:53:10 PM »

Looking ahead, when Pope and Stokes are back, 4-6 Looks fixed so 3 is the most obvious route into the team.  I would prefer to see Lawrence given a go on this tour in that position. 

Very hard to balance the team without Stokes as you have said, either too short on batting or light on bowling.

Foakes plays for me, more so in the subcontinent where it's got and humid, any chances that go down might cost us.

Agree on Bairstow, I understand why he has been selected as we are short on experience, he is almost certain to bat 3

I didn't know Lawrence could bowl, but even if it's a like for like batting spot I'd like to see him have a chance.

If England bin the Foakes idea, and Butler keeps and bats 7 there may be a spot opened for Lawrence. I don't think we will do that but you never know with selection
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« Reply #72 on: January 06, 2021, 09:12:14 PM »

Very hard to balance the team without Stokes as you have said, either too short on batting or light on bowling.

Foakes plays for me, more so in the subcontinent where it's got and humid, any chances that go down might cost us.

Agree on Bairstow, I understand why he has been selected as we are short on experience, he is almost certain to bat 3

I didn't know Lawrence could bowl, but even if it's a like for like batting spot I'd like to see him have a chance.

If England bin the Foakes idea, and Butler keeps and bats 7 there may be a spot opened for Lawrence. I don't think we will do that but you never know with selection

I have gone for 6 batsmen and 5 bowlers as i want Wood to play in these conditions but I can't see him as being able to play as a 4-man bowling attack.  Guess work at this stage without having seen the pitch, but generally speaking wickets tend to he harder to come by in these conditions
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #73 on: January 06, 2021, 09:25:45 PM »

On another note I'm still surprised that Jennings has been omitted from these tours altogether, looked accomplished in those conditions last time...
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #74 on: January 06, 2021, 09:33:31 PM »

Looking ahead, when Pope and Stokes are back, 4-6 Looks fixed so 3 is the most obvious route into the team.  I would prefer to see Lawrence given a go on this tour in that position.

Considering Crawley recently scored 267 at 3 I would say that spot is taken aswell.

Unless you are suggesting Burns is left out permanently?
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