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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #465 on: January 25, 2021, 05:01:31 PM »

That's a good sign he can adjust as he did look all at sea against the spinners.

Huge boost for him he made a contribution in a winning test also.

Slightly unexpectedly for me anyway, Crawley looked to be the better player of spin but ended up with no runs.

Still think he is a number 3 or 4 bat in a test team, I didn't know he opened for Kent but he looks naturally more of a stroke player
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #466 on: January 25, 2021, 05:18:10 PM »

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere before the series that Sibley doesn't like opening but is happy to do it for the team,

We've gone over this loads so won't bleat on but burns Sibley Crawley is my preferred top 3
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #467 on: January 25, 2021, 05:22:21 PM »

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere before the series that Sibley doesn't like opening but is happy to do it for the team,

We've gone over this loads so won't bleat on but burns Sibley Crawley is my preferred top 3

You're thinking of Crawley.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #468 on: January 25, 2021, 05:40:23 PM »

found it strange that the majority of umpires call not outs on first view i thought were nowhere near hitting the stumps. sibley must have been right back on his stumps to hit him that high and still clip the bails

I have to say that watching it live, I was amazed that they weren't given.  The second review in particular looked stone dead.

I don't particularly like the umpires call aspect of DRS.   I appreciate that originally the system was for obviously incorrect decisions but now with snicko and hot spot it has clearly gone beyond its original remit
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #469 on: January 25, 2021, 05:49:26 PM »

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere before the series that Sibley doesn't like opening but is happy to do it for the team,

We've gone over this loads so won't bleat on but burns Sibley Crawley is my preferred top 3

Sibley dictated to Alec Stewart where he wanted to bat before signing a new contract at Surrey, and he subsequently told him to sling his hook
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #470 on: January 25, 2021, 05:58:19 PM »

Sibley dictated to Alec Stewart where he wanted to bat before signing a new contract at Surrey, and he subsequently told him to sling his hook

Hmmmm I know you're a massive Surrey fan so I will be careful with this post  :)

Sibley said if he was going to get into the England team he had to bat top 3 I believe. The gaffer Alec said he could give no guarantee of that.

Sibley  went to Warwickshire with the same proposal and they said yes.

You have Burns and Stoneman opening in the CC, I like Stoneman but he is 30 plus and won't play for England again.

I can see why Sibley moved as hard as it was because I know he came thru tour colts system.

Have I got that right?
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #471 on: January 25, 2021, 06:00:00 PM »

You're thinking of Crawley.

Yes that was Crawley.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #472 on: January 25, 2021, 06:05:09 PM »

Yes sorry I did mean Crawley.. typed too quickly and didnt check it!
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #473 on: January 25, 2021, 06:18:18 PM »

I don't particularly like the umpires call aspect of DRS.   I appreciate that originally the system was for obviously incorrect decisions but now with snicko and hot spot it has clearly gone beyond its original remit

Aye - it's daft that Sibley two not outs were hitting more stump than Bairstow's dismissal.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #474 on: January 25, 2021, 06:47:13 PM »

It is..until you stop taking the tracking as gospel and umpires call is the best alternative
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #475 on: January 25, 2021, 07:18:49 PM »

It is..until you stop taking the tracking as gospel and umpires call is the best alternative

Either you trust the technology or you don't but I think it needs to be a consistent approach.  I recall Tim Paine being given out caught behind in the recent India series when the on field decision was not out, there was no mark on hot spot but a small noise on snicko.  Clearly not obvious error by the onfield umpire given the conflicting technology, but the decision was overturned.  I don't see any coherent basis for that being given as out when Sibley is given not out when half the ball is smashing into the stumps
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #476 on: January 25, 2021, 07:52:48 PM »

This could be a whole new thread but I like the technology generally but have never thought ball tracking could ever be accurate.

Tufnell was on this morning explaining about the arm ball or slider or non spinning off break -whatever you want to call it.

He said it's basically the same action but undercut with a different grip. The idea being you avoid landing on the seam so there's no grip and the ball carries on its arc.

The ball tracking could never know how the ball reacts when it hits the pitch-and that determines which path it's travelling on.
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #477 on: January 25, 2021, 07:54:46 PM »

But it is trusted and it works in its current format

The fact that there's half a ball width "safety net" built in to cover inaccuracies.. umpires call must be there to get the correct decision most of the time

Captains and teams have got more savvy with it, so to stop the bowler has gone out the window and it's now very tactical
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #478 on: January 25, 2021, 07:56:05 PM »

Also.. we should be thankful.. just look at VAR
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Re: England v Sri lanka
« Reply #479 on: January 25, 2021, 08:01:26 PM »

Very true ! Also, whether it it accurate or not it has played a part in moving on test matches.

Sat thru many a session way back with batsmen hiding their bat behind pads but clearly playing no shot.Confident the umpire would not give it out.

Don't we that much these days, batsmen have to use their bat more-and that can only be better
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