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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2021, 08:21:00 PM »

If Crawley is missing, I’d like to see foakes come in an take the gloves for the whole series and play butler as a batter only for the first game

Absolutely totally agree, Jos has in the last couple of years done pretty well for with bat only
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« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2021, 08:39:15 PM »

Im prepared to throw an experienced, moderately successful player back in over Bess currently yes.

If Bess bowls anything like he did against Sri Lanka he will go for 6 an over and it could set him back years. remember how Kerrigan and Crane went?

Suppose that's the calculation, Moeen's experience against Bess' super preparation, fielding skills and match sharpness.

I think Bess has enough behind him now that he's not going to go the way of Kerrigan or Crane based on one bad series, assuming obviously that he has a bad series which is not necessarily going to happen.
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2021, 08:52:29 PM »

I don't have many worries Bess won't cave in when the going gets tough, there's something about him and England look to pick on character these days a bit more than they used to.

He's def a work in progress and Indian batsman will be much better than SL who gave us half their wickets.

Who is the better spinner out of Bess and Ali is tough, Ali has quite a few test wickets behind him.

If the wicket they prepare looks like it's got no grass we could play both Bess and Ali with Leach.
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2021, 08:53:29 PM »

Suppose that's the calculation, Moeen's experience against Bess' super preparation, fielding skills and match sharpness.

I think Bess has enough behind him now that he's not going to go the way of Kerrigan or Crane based on one bad series, assuming obviously that he has a bad series which is not necessarily going to happen.

I wouldnt be so sure of that. After watching how the Indian batsmen recently treated Nathan Lyon with disdain I really think he could be taken to the cleaners.

Id personally prefer to protect him a little bit for the future.

If Alis fit and firing in training I'd have him in.

Dont really buy your claim of Besses better preparation. If the players are fit they are available for selection. If you use that argument you'll be leaving Stokes and Archer out aswell as they've been around the squad and training for less time than Mo
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2021, 08:55:17 PM »

I don't have many worries Bess won't cave in when the going gets tough, there's something about him and England look to pick on character these days a bit more than they used to.

He's def a work in progress and Indian batsman will be much better than SL who gave us half their wickets.

Who is the better spinner out of Bess and Ali is tough, Ali has quite a few test wickets behind him.

If the wicket they prepare looks like it's got no grass we could play both Bess and Ali with Leach.

Theres an article on cricinfo with an interview with the chennai groundsman. He suggests the wicket will have an 'english' green tinge to it. Could be smoke and mirrors though ...
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2021, 08:56:39 PM »

I think it will be interesting the side India go with, it is not a straightforward selection for them with no Jadeja or Vihari to balance the team, amongst other issues.
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2021, 08:59:18 PM »

I think it will be interesting the side India go with, it is not a straightforward selection for them with no Jadeja or Vihari to balance the team, amongst other issues.

Kuldeep yadav likely to be the 2nd spinner or will they keep Washington sundar in?
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2021, 09:08:24 PM »

Definately think if Crawley isn't fit, the Foakes would be a good shout. Unlikely to happen though  :(
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2021, 09:16:37 PM »

Kuldeep yadav likely to be the 2nd spinner or will they keep Washington sundar in?

I think they may play 3 spinners - Ashwin, Kuldeep and either Washington or Axer Patel. Bumrah and probably Ishant comes back in.
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2021, 09:33:30 PM »

I think they may play 3 spinners - Ashwin, Kuldeep and either Washington or Axer Patel. Bumrah and probably Ishant comes back in.

Could be an exciting attack then. Always good to see some wrist spin.

Bumrahs first home test, played all 18 away up till now with great success.
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #85 on: February 03, 2021, 10:55:14 PM »

The journos reckon after England’s struggles against the SL left armer India might pick Patel.
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #86 on: February 04, 2021, 12:07:49 AM »

It is hard to judge what England want to get out of this series.  Looking purely at winning this series, Ali has to play over Bess. It obviously isn't an all out effort to win though as we have the squad chop and changing (I can't see us running the squad for the Ashes without our best players being their for the entire series).  For the long term, Bess would be better for the experience.

Assuming that Crawley won't be fit and the pitch won't be a dust bowl, for the first test I would go with.

1. Sibley
2. Burns
3. Stokes
4. Root
5. Lawrence
6. Pope
7. Butler
8. Ali
9. Archer
10. Anderson
11. Leech
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #87 on: February 04, 2021, 12:13:00 AM »

Suspect that will be more or less the team, with the possible exception of Broad in for Anderson.
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Re: ENG vs IND series - UK Television Rights
« Reply #88 on: February 04, 2021, 06:40:40 AM »

Confirmed that Crawley to miss first 2 tests with a sprained wrist.

'Wrist injury rules Crawley out of first two India Tests'

http://www.skysports.com/share/12208149
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Re: ENG vs IND series
« Reply #89 on: February 04, 2021, 07:07:45 AM »

Crawley confirmed as out for the first two tests this morning. Could be another big opportunity for Lawrence!

I'd have picked Moeen in the all-rounder's slot ahead of Curran in SL if he was available, but now Stokes is back I don't think he gets in ahead of Bess unless we're really worried about the batting.

Anderson over Broad for me if we only pick one.
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