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Tomp

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Should I persevere with this bat?
« on: February 16, 2021, 11:12:13 AM »

Hi All,

Got this bat of Ebay for £120 a couple of weeks ago, advertised a Kippax which I am pretty sure it is as it has a wavex handle. Also said it was new which I am less sure about (why would you send a new bat to GN to be refurbed?).

It's a pretty big bit of wood, weighs just under 2,13 but picks up beautifully. When I tap it with a mallet or bounce a ball on it it feels quite hard, has quite a high pitched sound and doesn't ping as well as my other kippax which is newish but has been knocked in by Eclipse sports.

So I guess my question is will it improve with time, I think it is a lower grade of wood than my current kippax (i am basing that entirely on the no. of grains, 7 compared to 12) so does that mean a few months or even a season of netting and it might come good?

Like I said I like how it feels so really want it to be a good bat, but could sell on if not.

Sorry for the noob questions, been playing cricket at a decent level for 28 years but realised I know nothing about bats :)

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Tom
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2021, 11:19:51 AM »

From my experience, harder wood takes longer to break in/start pinging - I'm sure one of the bat makers on here will tell you how to get it performing. Once played in though, the harder bats I've had really fly.

I did read about oiling harder wood a bit more than you might usually, helps soften it up.
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2021, 11:24:15 AM »

Carefully remove the scuff sheet (use a hairdryer etc). Then oil it, leave the oil to soak in for 36 hours, oil it again, leave it to soak in for another 36 hours and see how it is.
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2021, 11:28:18 AM »

Wait until you have a good go in the nets. It’s not unusual for a bat to feel very different in a net from bouncing a ball in it. Also, the more it’s used, the better it will get.
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2021, 03:36:22 PM »

Thanks for the advice everyone, I took the scuff sheet off, painstakingly removed the glue and oiled twice over a few days. It certainly sounds better now with the mallet and tapping up with a ball. Looking forward to having a hit with it!
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2021, 04:08:41 PM »

I’d be interested to know how this one progresses. Always hear the stories that hard pressed (wider grain) bats do eventually “open up” and become great bats but never have the patience to get to that stage! I’d give similar an hour with the mallet and then it’s sold - naturally that’s an excuse to buy another bat.
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2021, 05:10:41 PM »

hard pressed (wider grain)
This is not the case. Any bat can be hard pressed, any bat can be soft pressed. Nothing to do with the grains.
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2021, 06:34:58 PM »

This is not the case. Any bat can be hard pressed, any bat can be soft pressed. Nothing to do with the grains.

I've heard them both mentioned separately as having similar effects, ie: softer press will perform quicker than harder press but will have less longevity, tighter grain will perform quicker than wider grain bats, etc. But yes, no correlation between the two!
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2021, 06:52:44 PM »

My experience has been that tighter grained bats feel softer and perform quicker but are also less resistant to damage.  Wider grained bats conversely have for me feel harder and take longer to open up but are more resilient
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2021, 07:26:02 PM »

Didn’t mean to open this well trodden discussion thread up again!
Agree there is no correlation, just lazy typing on my part. Jimbo and SD articulate the point.
I have a 7 grainer off Garrard and it’s pressed to perfection. Response is superb even though I haven’t knocked it in yet. Case in point.
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2021, 06:36:23 PM »

Thanks for the advice everyone, I took the scuff sheet off, painstakingly removed the glue and oiled twice over a few days. It certainly sounds better now with the mallet and tapping up with a ball. Looking forward to having a hit with it!

How is the bat now? Keen to hear an update!
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2021, 09:07:09 PM »

3 of 4 of my sk made bats all have 7-8 grains and all have been excellent from the get go!
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2021, 09:25:21 PM »

I’ve always used bats which have had 6-8 grains and they have always performed well, never been a one for a bat with lots of grains
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2021, 01:02:22 PM »

How is the bat now? Keen to hear an update!

Definitely better with the mallet and tapping a ball both in sound and ping, hoping to have a hit against a bola on the weekend. Should I keep knocking it in with the mallet or just move to throw downs/bowling machine?
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Re: Should I persevere with this bat?
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2021, 01:26:48 PM »

Definitely better with the mallet and tapping a ball both in sound and ping, hoping to have a hit against a bola on the weekend. Should I keep knocking it in with the mallet or just move to throw downs/bowling machine?

Have you tried giving it a knock with an old ball and seeing if it left seam marks? If it's not leaving marks then I would say good to go for Bola or throwdowns personally.
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