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« Reply #45 on: March 10, 2021, 05:45:17 PM »

Ah CBF.

Never purchased anything from aforementioned retailer. Had a friend who wanted to be a GM FKW after purchasing a Chroma and having an unhealthy obsession with Aiden Markram. He managed to pick up pads, and two pairs of gloves for the price of a set of pads over here, all delivered within 9  days I think. Great service that unfortunately someone with tight purse strings couldn’t be taken away from.

Personally, like the custom made aspect I can get from UK bat makers and prefer being a FKW so leads me to a English company. Particularly with bats, the ability to twerk and the aftersales service is what keeps me going back. Shame I don’t think there any makers NW based.

It’s not that I think it’s okay, and fully appreciate it is different for you makers but I thought the whole time wasting sales thing, just came as part of the CBF joys 😅
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« Reply #46 on: March 10, 2021, 06:00:27 PM »

Particularly with bats, the ability to twerk and the aftersales service is what keeps me going back.

Do they charge extra for this or have I been missing out on that particular service? 😅
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« Reply #47 on: March 10, 2021, 06:27:45 PM »

Haha damn autocorrect. Must be the difference in the finishing between brands though 🤣
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« Reply #48 on: March 10, 2021, 07:13:21 PM »

Special offer from me....free twerk with every bat! 😆
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« Reply #49 on: March 10, 2021, 07:26:29 PM »

I'm sorry that my overly long post was interpreted by a few as patronising, sanctimonious and condescending.  I've re-read it with a critical eye and can't honestly see it myself, but then I'm the author.  This forum is a great place with some great members (and the odd great big member!) and would be all the better for brands of all types, from all places interacting with us.



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« Reply #50 on: March 10, 2021, 07:27:59 PM »

I'm sorry that my overly long post was interpreted by a few as patronising, sanctimonious and condescending.  I've re-read it with a critical eye and can't honestly see it myself, but then I'm the author.  This forum is a great place with some great members (and the odd great big member!) and would be all the better for brands of all types, from all places interacting with us.

I think we can all agree on the last part mate!
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« Reply #51 on: March 10, 2021, 07:51:05 PM »

I can see it from both sides. As a new small brand who has brought softs in recently, I can safely say there is no way you could sell these for £30 and still make any profit.....unless I'm being grossly overcharged. So saying you could try to compete at that level is quite frankly ridiculous.

Also to say all softs are the same isn't true. I've had samples from various suppliers, some are very poor and I wouldn't have been happy using them let alone putting my name to them. I've also seen some cheaper softs from brands on FB etc and can see the materials used are different in terms of quality, so suppose you pays your money.

I tweaked quite a few things in my designs and took care and attention to create a product I was happy with and I know others do the same. It's not about making huge sums of cash but we all have overheads and are all trying to create a business, providing quality kit, bats or whatever. This takes investment and hard work, but if it's just a matter of getting the cheapist kit then that's not a market you can compete in and build anything on.

As others do, I also hopefully offer more with my bats than just an off the shelf solution, to try to give maximum value and something different. Not many larger makers send x number of pictures of clefts, pictures throughout the process, will reply to 40 messages on specs etc etc, as it's just not sustainable....especially at CBF levels! 😂

Ultimately I have no issue with people buying abroad, it's a consumers right to purchase from who they like. They will always be people, both on the forum and elsewhere, who will want more than just a cheap set of softs and that's great. I've had orders from people who could have gone anywhere, but really thought it important to support a new, independent, local company and be part of their journey. Which ultimately is the only way anyone new to the industry will survive, from this kind of support. Surely a thriving UK batmaking industry is what we all want at the end of the day, which is thankfully still a consideration for many when choosing where to spend their money.

However, as I said that's not a dig away anyone who doesn't. We all have as choice, differing budgets and considerations.
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« Reply #52 on: March 10, 2021, 07:58:48 PM »

I can see it from both sides. As a new small brand who has brought softs in recently, I can safely say there is no way you could sell these for £30 and still make any profit.....unless I'm being grossly overcharged. So saying you could try to compete at that level is quite frankly ridiculous.

Also to say all softs are the same isn't true. I've had samples from various suppliers, some are very poor and I wouldn't have been happy using them let alone putting my name to them. I've also seen some cheaper softs from brands on FB etc and can see the materials used are different in terms of quality, so suppose you pays your money.

I tweaked quite a few things in my designs and took care and attention to create a product I was happy with and I know others do the same. It's not about making huge sums of cash but we all have overheads and are all trying to create a business, providing quality kit, bats or whatever. This takes investment and hard work, but if it's just a matter of getting the cheapist kit then that's not a market you can compete in and build anything on.

As others do, I also hopefully offer more with my bats than just an off the shelf solution, to try to give maximum value and something different. Not many larger makers send x number of pictures of clefts, pictures throughout the process, will reply to 40 messages on specs etc etc, as it's just not sustainable....especially at CBF levels! 😂

Ultimately I have no issue with people buying abroad, it's a consumers right to purchase from who they like. They will always be people, both on the forum and elsewhere, who will want more than just a cheap set of softs and that's great. I've had orders from people who could have gone anywhere, but really thought it important to support a new, independent, local company and be part of their journey. Which ultimately is the only way anyone new to the industry will survive, from this kind of support. Surely a thriving UK batmaking industry is what we all want at the end of the day, which is thankfully still a consideration for many when choosing where to spend their money.

However, as I said that's not a dig away anyone who doesn't. We all have as choice, differing budgets and considerations.

And thats why i  respect the independent bat maker on here one thing learning your great craft another anwsering the countless messages and emails spending day weeks on pictures sizes and what not and then losing a sale...
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« Reply #53 on: March 10, 2021, 11:10:05 PM »

My personal beef is when people say BUY BRITISH. To sell their own products people use this buy British slogan. But in reality how many of us are actually buying British product. Look at food we eat cars we drive clothes we wear and lot more other stuff that we use day in day out are they all British products. Not really.
So it's time we stop with this non sense and buy and let buy what suits you and your pockets.
To me buying British slogan sounds selfish and racist than loyalty/patriotism.
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« Reply #54 on: March 10, 2021, 11:25:35 PM »

My personal beef is when people say BUY BRITISH. To sell their own products people use this buy British slogan. But in reality how many of us are actually buying British product. Look at food we eat cars we drive clothes we wear and lot more other stuff that we use day in day out are they all British products. Not really.
So it's time we stop with this non sense and buy and let buy what suits you and your pockets.
To me buying British slogan sounds selfish and racist than loyalty/patriotism.

Fair enough if that’s the connotations you take from it.

I don’t think it’s use is intended in that way however.

I do totally agree that you should cut your cloth accordingly and buy what suits your budget.

My one observation would be that if you buy local (note - local, and not necessarily British) you will get better after sales and better customer service.

If you live in India, and you visit your local factory in jalandahar or wherever, the likelihood is that you will get good service as you can visit and if there is a problem, you can likely get it sorted.

However, if you import into the grey market, you do not have that luxury.
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« Reply #55 on: March 10, 2021, 11:33:40 PM »

Yeah not sure I agree with that part. Its just encouraging people to support UK manufacturing and business where possible to benefit them, nothing racist in that imo but can see why you many think that.

As I said, it's really meant a lot to me when people have said they've bought from me as they have wanted to support my new little venture, rather than going to the big boys or overseas. It's more about that in my opinion, rather than having anything against buying from another country.
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« Reply #56 on: March 10, 2021, 11:47:33 PM »

The one that is maybe overlooked a bit is those who advocate for buying British from an environmental standpoint. Realistically, the carbon footprint on an English willow bat made in India is going to be exponentially higher than that of one made in the UK and for some that's a big consideration these days.
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« Reply #57 on: March 11, 2021, 08:16:18 AM »

The one that is maybe overlooked a bit is those who advocate for buying British from an environmental standpoint. Realistically, the carbon footprint on an English willow bat made in India is going to be exponentially higher than that of one made in the UK and for some that's a big consideration these days.
See that'd be a fantastic tagline for a bat made in England! If it's however made in India and rebranded as an english brand bat then you might as well skip the middlesman and buy it from an Indian retailer.
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« Reply #58 on: March 11, 2021, 08:21:00 AM »

“Buy British” (after we have imported the goods from India)
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« Reply #59 on: March 11, 2021, 08:38:03 AM »

“Buy British” (after we have imported the goods from India)
[Designed in Yorkshire|Made in Meerut]
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